Official Transformation Contest Thread!!!

[Fit Guru]

Only post contest relevant pics and comments here. "SMACK" is allowed here so be kind or be cocky!! But be courteous. Now introduce yourself and your starting weight and height! If you have joined say so here!! Let the games begin!!

[Vicious 13]

Ok boys I'm in!! Get ready cause I'm giving it all I got!!!?

[layddually]

Yes time to get this started I have been going crazy waiting.

I'm 5'11" maybe 6'2" after lol.

[Fit Guru]

Yes time to get this started I have been going crazy waiting.

I'm 5'11" maybe 6'2" after lol.

Wo wo shorty I can't work miracles! Lol

[layddually]

Wo wo shorty I can't work miracles! Lol

Oh dammit. Oh well my weight is umm well questionable because my scale sucks but this morning was 200.4lbs

[Vicious 13]

5'8 Scale just read 175.4 that changes all the time though... Bf ??? Between 10 and 15 u guys can tell me after tomorrows pic

[layddually]

5'8 Scale just read 175.4 that changes all the time though... Bf ??? Between 10 and 15 u guys can tell me after tomorrows pic

Stupid scale says I'm 24% that's not right lol.

[Vicious 13]

Yea mine says 16% but that's high

[Fit Guru]

Stupid scale says I'm 24% that's not right lol.

You have to use calipers. The scales and hand held some gyms use are a joke. I suggest everyone buy a cheap plastic set of calipers and do a 3 point test. Plenty of BF calculators onlinr

[Fit Guru]

I resent diets to people that had empty emails. Working from wife's laptop backfired. Let me know Sat if anyone still doesn't have them.

[kazman68]

You have to use calipers. The scales and hand held some gyms use are a joke. I suggest everyone buy a cheap plastic set of calipers and do a 3 point test. Plenty of BF calculators onlinr

X2 always do a skin fold test, Roger would test me at 9 places, as Fit said the hand held things are a piece of shit.Even a cheap set of plastic calipers are much better.

[Ecto]

I'm 5'9", 183 lbs, and 14% bf last time i measured with calipers. Pics to follow tomorrow.

[Vicious 13]

I'm nervous already... Not a big fan of some foods but I'll do it for the sake of getting huge :)

[layddually]

I'm nervous already... Not a big fan of some foods but I'll do it for the sake of getting huge :)

It's ok vicious you can eat pizza, ice cream, etc

[Bruiser]

By the sounds of your guys stats, I'm gonna get whooped in this contest! I'm bar far in better shape and condition than any of you so it's gonna be hard for me to beat a bunch of out of shape pussies... Lol

[Ecto]

Probably true I don't ever do any cardio. Now I'll have to. But my stomach is pretty flat and I eat like a slob.

[Bruiser]

Probably true I don't ever do any cardio. Now I'll have to. But my stomach is pretty flat and I eat like a slob.

Same here. Usually 6-8000 cals a day, no cardio, lots of junk food and I maintain weight with visible obliques.

[layddually]

By the sounds of your guys stats, I'm gonna get whooped in this contest! I'm bar far in better shape and condition than any of you so it's gonna be hard for me to beat a bunch of out of shape pussies... Lol

Yea it's going to be tough to get in good shape like the gays. So bruiser how long have you been out of the closet?

[REGGOR]

By the sounds of your guys stats, I'm gonna get whooped in this contest! I'm bar far in better shape and condition than any of you so it's gonna be hard for me to beat a bunch of out of shape pussies... Lol

Thanks for the donation man .. The other top placere and i will use your donation for more fat burners..

[Bruiser]

Yea it's going to be tough to get in good shape like the gays. So bruiser how long have you been out of the closet?

Same time you did sweetie. Lol


Thanks for the donation man .. The other top placere and i will use your donation for more fat burners..

Hahaha. Good luck though man. You've already made some amazing improvements.

[Nelson303]

Shit I'm mad. I wish I would have jumped on this contest. Not to win. Cause I wouldn't. But to talk shit. Good luck bros. Can we get a pool going. I want to see some pics and place some bets. Just like cock fighting. Kinda

[Bruiser]

Shit I'm mad. I wish I would have jumped on this contest. Not to win. Cause I wouldn't. But to talk shit. Good luck bros. Can we get a pool going. I want to see some pics and place some bets. Just like cock fighting. Kinda

You want a picture of our what?

[Ecto]

Shit I'm mad. I wish I would have jumped on this contest. Not to win. Cause I wouldn't. But to talk shit. Good luck bros. Can we get a pool going. I want to see some pics and place some bets. Just like cock fighting. Kinda

We're all supposed to be putting our starting/before pics on here today. Speaking of pics, I guess I need to go into town and get my USA Today.

[layddually]

I need to go get a USA today as well but this is a pic of this morning. Guess I'm going to have to tell wife about contest because she will want to know why I have a news paper.600

[Fit Guru]

I'm kind of amused at some of the comments I get back from the diets. Most guys have never even remotely eaten this way. Act like its the end of the world . No cardio? In your life? Do you even WO? Lol.. Or "I eat twice as much as that already" really ? You don't look like it! Hey it's all good. I'm used to hearing it.

[REGGOR]

I posted my starting pics in my log. Are we posting in this thread and just scatter are pics thru out or will there be a thread just for stats and pics..

[Vicious 13]

Lol I thought it seemed like a little less food than normal but your the expert... If I find myself starving to death I'll let ya no

[layddually]

I'm kind of amused at some of the comments I get back from the diets. Most guys have never even remotely eaten this way. Act like its the end of the world . No cardio? In your life? Do you even WO? Lol.. Or "I eat twice as much as that already" really ? You don't look like it! Hey it's all good. I'm used to hearing it.

I bet when I first saw mine I was thinking this is going to suck. But it's not that bad.

[Bruiser]

Went and got the paper and now I'm just waiting for my wife to get back to take pics.

[REGGOR]

Shit I'm mad. I wish I would have jumped on this contest. Not to win. Cause I wouldn't. But to talk shit. Good luck bros. Can we get a pool going. I want to see some pics and place some bets. Just like cock fighting. Kinda

I am sure there is still time to jump in man just pm fit guru..

[layddually]

I posted my starting pics in my log. Are we posting in this thread and just scatter are pics thru out or will there be a thread just for stats and pics..

I posted a pic here and my log but they are not official starting pics I have to go get a USA today paper

[Ecto]

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[REGGOR]

Well my are in and time stamped ... I am ready to kick some ass !!

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k519/rouge67/12-1-201211-37-27AMCONTESTPICS2012DEC.png

[Bruiser]

611609610612

Age: 36
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 225-230
Waist: 33-34"
Powerlifter

[SFDan]

Subbed. This will be fun.

[layddually]

Shit I have to find a way to get pics taken I don't really want to ask my wife lol.

[Bruiser]

Shit I have to find a way to get pics taken I don't really want to ask my wife lol.

I had to. Closest thing to any action I've seen in weeks! Lol

[Vicious 13]

Lol! my wife gets home at 5 I'm going to wait for her otherwise maybe ask someone at the gym

[Bruiser]

Lol! my wife gets home at 5 I'm going to wait for her otherwise maybe ask someone at the gym

Just guessing, but it might be best to wait and have the wife do it, instead of having her find out you had someone take pics of you in your drawz... No matter what you say she'll think it was some cardio bunny behind the camera.

Of course, if she kills you in a fit of jealous rage that's one less competitor... Hmmmm, never mind. Go to the gym. Lol

[Ecto]

Are you bastards ready to take your beating??? Got my game plan figured out. I'm going to be one lean and mean MOFO at the end of 90 days.

[Vicious 13]

8 pack style?

[REGGOR]

TELL UM BRO !!! You will be putting up one hell of fight with layddually for second place..

[Ecto]

Was there any sort of prize for first or is this just for the glory and the glam??? REGGOR i could really see ya pulling a first place out of this.

[kazman68]

I'm kind of amused at some of the comments I get back from the diets. Most guys have never even remotely eaten this way. Act like its the end of the world . No cardio? In your life? Do you even WO? Lol.. Or "I eat twice as much as that already" really ? You don't look like it! Hey it's all good. I'm used to hearing it.

I hear you Fit, I wrote a diet for one guy who said "I will do whatever it takes to get big" He took one look at it and said"you have to eat like this every day?' Yup...it didn't last long, 15 yrs of training and you can barely tell he works out at all, known several guys like that, LOL, one guy was terrified of getting to much protien, and he couldn't comphrehnd the act of eating 'by the clock' not your hunger level. He was a pussy anyway(32 and lived at home and had to eat what mom made), loads of gear, back covered with zits, bitch tits, and again you couldn't even tell he worked out. Why do you think there are so few really big guys, most people don't have the knowledge/drive/discipline it takes. It takes a lot more than 'lifting weights' a few times a week. I've tried to help guys, but anymore I don't say a word unless they ask, and even then I have to know their serious. I had a friend who wanted a diet, he wanted to get his bf down asap, so I put him on keto, spent 30 mins typing it out and then explaining it to him, 2 days later he calls and says he is going to do the 50/30/20 diet, I say ok, that's a good diet too. 2 weeks later he calls, "I need you to make a diet out for me" I finally got pissed and just said eat clean. He would ask the same questions 5-6 times in a conversation, then 2 days later call and ask the same shit again, I actually had to stop being friends/talking with him. He was driving me that crazy. I also hate when you take time and give people the best advice possible, then they completely ignore it...Anyway sorry for the rant...Good luck to all you guys, and listen when Fit tells you something, he knows his shit and it may go against what you have heard/believe, but so much bs goes around in gyms. Legends and old wives tales. Do as he says and give 100% at all times, day in day out, don't fool yourself thinking one extra potato or whatever here and there won't hurt, yes it will. Again that;s why there are so few big/ripped guys. Dante said he would get up and eat eggs and pancakes at 2 am every morning, he didn't miss a meal for 3 years, that's what kind of dedication it truly takes.

[REGGOR]

Was there any sort of prize for first or is this just for the glory and the glam??? REGGOR i could really see ya pulling a first place out of this.

I am not in it for the money bro just the thrill of the game and the battle .. Plus a little friendly shit talk ..

[Ecto]

.... loads of gear, back covered with zits, bitch tits, and again you couldn't even tell he worked out. Why do you think there are so few really big guys, most people don't have the knowledge/drive/discipline it takes. It takes a lot more than 'lifting weights' a few times a week.......


LOL. Sadly enough this sounds like me. Don't get me wrong, I lift hard and heavy, but I wasted many many years lifting wrong.....and I'm still small. I am making small progress and getting stronger but at a very slow rate.

[REGGOR]

Here is a sample of my last diet..

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k519/rouge67/10-26-20127-44-55AMdiet.png



I cant waite to get a few weeks into this and see what fit guru has in store for me.. I also really pumped for the next 6 months this is going to be the time i make it to the stage..

[Fit Guru]

I hear you Fit, I wrote a diet for one guy who said "I will do whatever it takes to get big" He took one look at it and said"you have to eat like this every day?' Yup...it didn't last long, 15 yrs of training and you can barely tell he works out at all, known several guys like that, LOL, one guy was terrified of getting to much protien, and he couldn't comphrehnd the act of eating 'by the clock' not your hunger level. He was a pussy anyway(32 and lived at home and had to eat what mom made), loads of gear, back covered with zits, bitch tits, and again you couldn't even tell he worked out. Why do you think there are so few really big guys, most people don't have the knowledge/drive/discipline it takes. It takes a lot more than 'lifting weights' a few times a week. I've tried to help guys, but anymore I don't say a word unless they ask, and even then I have to know their serious. I had a friend who wanted a diet, he wanted to get his bf down asap, so I put him on keto, spent 30 mins typing it out and then explaining it to him, 2 days later he calls and says he is going to do the 50/30/20 diet, I say ok, that's a good diet too. 2 weeks later he calls, "I need you to make a diet out for me" I finally got pissed and just said eat clean. He would ask the same questions 5-6 times in a conversation, then 2 days later call and ask the same shit again, I actually had to stop being friends/talking with him. He was driving me that crazy. I also hate when you take time and give people the best advice possible, then they completely ignore it...Anyway sorry for the rant...Good luck to all you guys, and listen when Fit tells you something, he knows his shit and it may go against what you have heard/believe, but so much bs goes around in gyms. Legends and old wives tales. Do as he says and give 100% at all times, day in day out, don't fool yourself thinking one extra potato or whatever here and there won't hurt, yes it will. Again that;s why there are so few big/ripped guys. Dante said he would get up and eat eggs and pancakes at 2 am every morning, he didn't miss a meal for 3 years, that's what kind of dedication it truly takes.

True to all the above.when competing I had all natural peanut butter and whey protein out and ready to eat at 2 am. People have no idea what it takes to be a bodybuilder much less a successful bodybuilder.

[Fit Guru]

Remember everyone weigh in every Friday morning!

[kazman68]

LOL. Sadly enough this sounds like me. Don't get me wrong, I lift hard and heavy, but I wasted many many years lifting wrong.....and I'm still small. I am making small progress and getting stronger but at a very slow rate.

But your on the right track now! Your learning! This board is an immense help, and your in good hands with Fit.

[Nelson303]

<img src="http://www.musclecoalition.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=611"/><img src="http://www.musclecoalition.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=609"/><img src="http://www.musclecoalition.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=610"/><img src="http://www.musclecoalition.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=612"/>

Age: 36
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 225-230
Waist: 33-34"
Powerlifter

Fucking sexy dog. Shit didn't know this was a porn site. I got your picture.

[Vicious 13]

5'8
173.2 bf?
Arms 15
Chest 42
Quads 22 1/2
Waist 34 613614615616

[Ironguruera]

Lol at the shit talking.

Good luck fellas.

Curious to see how this pans out. maybe I should have hopped in. I'm prob going to do a mr physique class competition in April.

[Fit Guru]

Make sure everyone sends me their pics in their emails. Not everyone has done this.

[layddually]

Make sure everyone sends me their pics in their emails. Not everyone has done this.

Will have to send mine tomorrow or Monday I have my paper but no camera operator. Lol

[Bruiser]

Fucking sexy dog. Shit didn't know this was a porn site. I got your picture.

Ummm... thanks? Lol.

[REGGOR]

So how many do we have in the contest ???

[layddually]

So how many do we have in the contest ???

That's what I was wondering. Fit told me should be 8 that was before bruiser and vicious so they may be keeping there pics private or they are like me and haven't posted yet.

[Orange24]

Vicious..
Great hat bro

[Vicious 13]

Thanks bro! its not my world series edition but it was nearby... I plan on taking this contest just like the giants did the title :)

[OldGoat]

I had to. Closest thing to any action I've seen in weeks! Lol

What about with the zingers?

[Bruiser]

What about with the zingers?

Hahaha. I'll be down to Zingers once a week on my cheat meal now! Blasphemy! Lol

[layddually]

611609610612

Age: 36
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 225-230
Waist: 33-34"
Powerlifter

So how much did you eat before the pics?

[Vicious 13]

We get a cheat meal? Oh thank god

[Bruiser]

So how much did you eat before the pics?

Not a whole lot, but I was bloated from the night before. Normally my obliques are very visible. For supper the night before I ate 2 lbs of fried chicken, 1 lb of potato wedges, 3 Zingers, qt of milk and 6 cookies. All the sodium had me retaining a LOT of water.


We get a cheat meal? Oh thank god

I don't think everyone does, it's gonna be different for everybody's diet plan I'm sure.

[Vicious 13]

Rained all over my parade

[Fit Guru]

As far as cheat meals go yes you will get cheat meals. Most of the time and for most people it's 2 weeks in. We will see.

[Bruiser]

As far as cheat meals go yes you will get cheat meals. Most of the time and for most people it's 2 weeks in. We will see.

Don't let Vicious have one. Make him suffer. Lol

[Vicious 13]

Lol I'm suffering w these green beans

[Bruiser]

Lol I'm suffering w these green beans

You puss. Eat your veggies, they'll help make your vagina close up so you can try to grow boy parts...

[Vicious 13]

Well in that case!!!!

[layddually]

I know I know still need my pics they are coming.

5'11"
Weight as of this morning 202.4lbs
Upper arms 15.25"
Forearms 14"
Thighs 24.5"
Calves 15.5"

[Bruiser]

Well in that case!!!!

Lol. Look at this thread, 8 pages of basically smack talk already! This is gonna be fun bro! Hahaha

[Fit Guru]

Lol I'm suffering w these green beans

Replace with broccoli or asparagus

[Vicious 13]

Oooo I love broccoli... I was gonna ask but figured I could deal w it

[layddually]

You puss. Eat your veggies, they'll help make your vagina close up so you can try to grow boy parts...

Ha now that was funny.

[layddually]

I can't wait till the end of this when I'm the only one that looks like I did something you guys still look the except bloated.

[Ecto]

I just hope my metabolism speeds up from cardio to be able to get that 5th real meal down my throat. So far I ain't used to it. Yesterday was weird, I felt like I was starving all day, today I feel content with all the food and then some. The cardio inflamed an old injury. I have a torn Meniscus that has never been repaired, and normally the Elliptical doesn't bother me. I can barely walk, so no cardio today, just going to heat pad this all day long, I can't have this messing up my ability to do Squats and Deads. Other than that off to a good start, hell I even lost 2 lbs. yesterday, and my weight never fluctuates.

[Bruiser]

I just hope my metabolism speeds up from cardio to be able to get that 5th real meal down my throat. So far I ain't used to it. Yesterday was weird, I felt like I was starving all day, today I feel content with all the food and then some. The cardio inflamed an old injury. I have a torn Meniscus that has never been repaired, and normally the Elliptical doesn't bother me. I can barely walk, so no cardio today, just going to heat pad this all day long, I can't have this messing up my ability to do Squats and Deads. Other than that off to a good start, hell I even lost 2 lbs. yesterday, and my weight never fluctuates.

Geez, didn't take you long to start making excuses... Lol. Shit, I herniated a disk Friday and I'm still gonna train this week.

[layddually]

Geez, didn't take you long to start making excuses... Lol. Shit, I herniated a disk Friday and I'm still gonna train this week.

I was about to say the same thing. My clavicle is not attached to my right shoulder but I have been training that way for 2 yrs.

[Ecto]

Geez, didn't take you long to start making excuses... Lol. Shit, I herniated a disk Friday and I'm still gonna train this week.



I was about to say the same thing. My clavicle is not attached to my right shoulder but I have been training that way for 2 yrs.


Haha. It's just a set back on cardio today to give you fellas a head start, since you'll need it......I'm still going to beat ya both. LOL. Hey I have a grade 3 AC separation of my shoulder too and it never has hurt. Only screws with the symmetry a little in my traps. Have you guys already prepared yourselves mentally for 2nd, 3rd, or last place finishes. Hehehe.

[layddually]

Haha. It's just a set back on cardio today to give you fellas a head start, since you'll need it......I'm still going to beat ya both. LOL. Hey I have a grade 3 AC separation of my shoulder too and it never has hurt. Only screws with the symmetry a little in my traps. Have you guys already prepared yourselves mentally for 2nd, 3rd, or last place finishes. Hehehe.

Your shoulder doesn't mess with you? Mine snaps and pops and if I roll on my right side at night and stay there to long I wake up in pain from the bone stretching the skin.

[Ecto]

No, fortunately it never has hurt. I can even push the bone down with my fingers and it doesn't bother me, other than feeling gross. LOL. It was a bad separation too....look at my pics you can see it on the right, which is my left shoulder, notice the difference in my little tiny traps. I wanted to get surgery on it and have it tied down when I was younger but they advised against it saying the bones could rub and cause some severe arthritis when I got older, so i took their advise.

[REGGOR]

Haha. It's just a set back on cardio today to give you fellas a head start, since you'll need it......I'm still going to beat ya both. LOL. Hey I have a grade 3 AC separation of my shoulder too and it never has hurt. Only screws with the symmetry a little in my traps. Have you guys already prepared yourselves mentally for 2nd, 3rd, or last place finishes. Hehehe.

Thats right man let um have it.. There will be one hell of a batlle with all you guys fighting for second place..

[layddually]

No, fortunately it never has hurt. I can even push the bone down with my fingers and it doesn't bother me, other than feeling gross. LOL. It was a bad separation too....look at my pics you can see it on the right, which is my left shoulder, notice the difference in my little tiny traps. I wanted to get surgery on it and have it tied down when I was younger but they advised against it saying the bones could rub and cause some severe arthritis when I got older, so i took their advise.

I was told I needed surgery because mine is completely disconnected.

[layddually]

Thats right man let um have it.. There will be one hell of a batlle with all you guys fighting for second place..

Yea these guys are all gonna be fighting Reggor for second ;)

[layddually]

I just had my cheat meal. 24 oz sirloin a sweet potato and one sugar cookie.

[REGGOR]

Man i could have sworn that i over heard some one saying that you could have KFC 3 x a week .. shit a little extra crispy wont hurt..

[layddually]

Man i could have sworn that i over heard some one saying that you could have KFC 3 x a week .. shit a little extra crispy wont hurt..

That's right up bruisers alley I don't like fried chicken.

[Ironguruera]

I just had my cheat meal. 24 oz sirloin a sweet potato and one sugar cookie.

How is that a cheat meal? The large 24 oz serving and 1 lame cookie lol.

what's the diet like the rest of the week? U weigh out everything on the scale? mostly paleo style diet aka low carb?

[Vicious 13]

I bought my scale yesterday :) weighed out food for a couple days threw it in the fridge

[Fit Guru]

What you guys forget. Especially on the outside looking in is when you get a diet off the Internet that's just it a single diet. When you have a coach things constantly change( or not) to suit your needs. BIG difference from just copy and pasting a cookie cutter diet!

[layddually]

I'm trying to make my cheat meal count a few extra cals small amount of sugar and a ton more protein.

[kazman68]

I just had my cheat meal. 24 oz sirloin a sweet potato and one sugar cookie.

1 cookie? How could you stop?

[layddually]

1 cookie? How could you stop?

Because I hate to lose.

[kazman68]

What you guys forget. Especially on the outside looking in is when you get a diet off the Internet that's just it a single diet. When you have a coach things constantly change( or not) to suit your needs. BIG difference from just copy and pasting a cookie cutter diet!

Very true Fit! Someone who will work with you one on one, to suit your needs.

[Fit Guru]

Still having trouble with my outbox.so be patient if I haven't responded to emails

[Ironguruera]

What you guys forget. Especially on the outside looking in is when you get a diet off the Internet that's just it a single diet. When you have a coach things constantly change( or not) to suit your needs. BIG difference from just copy and pasting a cookie cutter diet!

This post truly shows your expertise.

Our body is and ever adapting machine......and each one of us is different.

[Orange24]

Thanks bro! its not my world series edition but it was nearby... I plan on taking this contest just like the giants did the title :)

Haha love it! Pulling for ya

[Bruiser]

Looks like my back is definitely tweaked bad. If you look at my pics you can see how far my hips are shifted to the right. Not good. And I just found out that I'm doing a two man deadlift competition for charity on January 5. Ughhhh. Gonna be a long couple weeks. Might have to take this whole week off training to heal up. Was gonna take it easy and try to train around the pain but I don't wanna risk it. Getting to be a part of this event is a pretty big deal.

[REGGOR]

So fit guru how many do we have in this ????

[Fit Guru]

I think 8? 7 for sure

[layddually]

This sux ass I have the paper sitting here but can't get anyone to take pics lol. They all worried someone gonna see and think we gay.

[layddually]

By the time I get my pics in I will have put on 10lbs or more.

[REGGOR]

it's ha larious hat were all standing there in our underwear holding up a paper with the headline about gay marriage.

[layddually]

it's ha larious hat were all standing there in our underwear holding up a paper with the headline about gay marriage.

Yes it is what are the odds.

[Fit Guru]

That's the way I planned it! Lol

[Bruiser]

That's the way I planned it! Lol

You evil genius

[layddually]

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Ha my friend saw the gay marriage on the paper and started talking shit.

[Vicious 13]

Layd is gonna b trouble especially w all his "accessories"

[layddually]

Layd is gonna b trouble especially w all his "accessories"

I think we all have our strong points and weaknesses bruisers weakness is zingers. So my plan is to send him a truck load of them lol.

[Bruiser]

Layd is gonna b trouble especially w all his "accessories"

His purse and matching hat?


I think we all have our strong points and weaknesses bruisers weakness is zingers. So my plan is to send him a truck load of them lol.

Gladly! Since they don't make them anymore, I'd love a truck load!

[layddually]

Gladly! Since they don't make them anymore, I'd love a truck load!

Really they don't? Shows how much I know about snack foods. Shit now I have to find another fattening food to send you.

[Fit Guru]

Too much Zinger talk on here!!! Chicken and greens and chicken and greens!!lol

[Vicious 13]

When this is done I don't think I will ever b eating greens again... Just to b clear though none of u have a chance... A junior alpha is about to b born :)

[Fit Guru]

I lived off chicken and greanbeans for 6 months before.

All about the discipline I ate the same food for 4 months straight, get in a habit after a while and don't even miss the other stuff, at least I didn't, or maybe in a sick sense I like the pain of depriving myself...I got ripped, that was my goal.

[Bruiser]

I lived off chicken and greanbeans for 6 months before.

Desert island?

[layddually]

I'm still curious who the other three are. We have ecto, Reggor, v13, bruiser, and me. Who is other three?

[REGGOR]

The less people the better. Thats just less ass whoopins I gotta give out.

[layddually]

Where is the fun in that I wanted to hand out more ass whoopings

[Fit Guru]

I'm still curious who the other three are. We have ecto, Reggor, v13, bruiser, and me. Who is other three?

Elbutcho-Ltyson

[Bruiser]

Take care guys and good luck. I'm out of the contest and off this forum.

[Ecto]

Take care guys and good luck. I'm out of the contest and off this forum.

What? Why for....?????

[layddually]

What? Why for....?????

Because exphys88 post about autism.

[Ecto]

What was said??? I have a special needs child as well???

[Vicious 13]

A lot was said but it just got a little out of hand... It got personal and it shouldn't have but its a rough topic I feel partly responsible and I apologize bruiser

[Fit Guru]

Bruiser you can't let one person run you off!!! You've got a lot of guys that respect and look up to you!

[layddually]

I can't believe he is gonna let him win by leaving I didn't expect that.

[Ecto]

Bruiser you can't let one person run you off!!! You've got a lot of guys that respect and look up to you!

Damn straight Bruiser....I'm one of them. No one can understand what it is to be a special needs parent, unless you are one. I'm here for ya buddy....I know how it feels.

[kazman68]

It takes a strong person to raise a child with needs like that, I admire you both.

[Fit Guru]

I can't believe he is gonna let him win by leaving I didn't expect that.

I didn't either!!

[layddually]

This sucks it's been a long ass day now going home to play with kids once there a sleep time to cook. I don't even want to look at food.

[Fit Guru]

This sucks it's been a long ass day now going home to play with kids once there a sleep time to cook. I don't even want to look at food.

It's so easy to grab McDonald's and a snack out of the cupboard and go. When you diet the right way you have to sacrifice time. It's up to you. Do you want a great physique? Or just average Joe who looks like he works out a little?

[kazman68]

It's so easy to grab McDonald's and a snack out of the cupboard and go. When you diet the right way you have to sacrifice time. It's up to you. Do you want a great physique? Or just average Joe who looks like he works out a little?

So true, I would cook my food on Sundays' watching tv, had all my meats cooked and ready to go, if I was eating more carbs at the time, had a large bowl of rice made, also had a big container of salad I had mixed up, This is so foreign to some guys, they are unprepared and grab whatever they can at work. That's why you see so few big ripped guys, but to these idiots who won;t put the time in as far as kitchen/food work goes, 'it's only because he/she takes steroids' I love guys who say 'I will do whatever it takes to get big' then you tell them something as easy as cook up your own food and always carry it with you. There attitude suddenly changes. When I worked in a very busy night-club, I would be moving non-stop for hours, no time for breaks, I would go into the back room where I had bowls of oatmeal/protein powder/ and maybe a tablespoon of low sugar jam(pre- mixed). Get some water in it (non cooked) and basically drink it down with a few fish oil caps. If that is too hard for you maybe you should take up something else like ping-pong.

[layddually]

It's not the cooking part it's the fact that I'm constipated and because of the tren can't even stand the site or smell of food.

[kazman68]

It's not the cooking part it's the fact that I'm constipated and because of the tren can't even stand the site or smell of food.

You try some Metamucil? or some type of fiber to loosen things up?

[layddually]

You try some Metamucil? or some type of fiber to loosen things up?

Yea I did its like I'm trying to poop a tennis ball I have hemroids now that's not the kinda rounds I want.

[exphys88]

Do you know how many grams of fiber you get in a day?
When I drop fruit and carbs out of my diet I have a difficult time w getting enough fiber and suffer the same as you.

[layddually]

No clue. I have heard drol can cause this and also suppress appetite. Maybe need even more fiber. I am currently drinking 2 glasses of fiber crap.

[Fit Guru]

No clue. I have heard drol can cause this and also suppress appetite. Maybe need even more fiber. I am currently drinking 2 glasses of fiber crap.

2 gallons of water a day. Plus the Metamucil I told you to take and you'll be ok. Your not drinking enuff water!! That was my fault. I left the water out

[layddually]

2 gallons of water a day. Plus the Metamucil I told you to take and you'll be ok. Your not drinking enuff water!! That was my fault. I left the water out

Been getting close anyways doing 1 1/2 gallons a day. As soon as I eat I swell up like a tick.

[kazman68]

No clue. I have heard drol can cause this and also suppress appetite. Maybe need even more fiber. I am currently drinking 2 glasses of fiber crap.

Drol has been known to suppress appetite..

[layddually]

Drol has been known to suppress appetite..

Tren suppress my appetite too so I got double whammy
100mg Ed of each

[Vicious 13]

Hit abs hard yesterday, went to get up and got a cramp like I've never experienced... I went down to the floor and kind of rolled around I think people though I was having a heart attack... Took a good 10 minutes to breathe and let my body cool down... Never experienced that I was afraid people were going to freak out and call an ambulance or something

[layddually]

Hit abs hard yesterday, went to get up and got a cramp like I've never experienced... I went down to the floor and kind of rolled around I think people though I was having a heart attack... Took a good 10 minutes to breathe and let my body cool down... Never experienced that I was afraid people were going to freak out and call an ambulance or something

I don't do that shit any more I tore my abdominal wall doing weighted crunches. I couldn't stand up I had this big knot pop out.

[Vicious 13]

I was just doing crunches and triangles with my legs lol

[Ecto]

Don't forget to weigh in this morning, it's Friday.

[layddually]

Already did I'm 205 I think would be more but haven't been able to eat for last 2 days.

[REGGOR]

I am at 245.. so down 5 pounds this week.

[layddually]

I am at 245.. so down 5 pounds this week.

Good job Reggor. I'm up 3

[Vicious 13]

169.6 losing weight still not happy about that but whatever

[Ecto]

I lost weight too. I was sick all week and didn't do jack, but went from 183.4 to 179.8 abs look nice, huh, i got leaner.

[Vicious 13]

I'm just tired of Being the skinny kid... I've had a six pack all my life alway been fairly cut so for me thats not really my goal... I just want to b big

[Vicious 13]

Up until I was maybe 22 I walked around at 140 lbs so ive always been down o take any weight I can get

[layddually]

I lost weight too. I was sick all week and didn't do jack, but went from 183.4 to 179.8 abs look nice, huh, i got leaner.

The week before the contest I was 194 down from like 207. I tried to loose some fat a head of time so less to loose at the end of this.

[Vicious 13]

I think that's what I'm having the hardest time w... I've never tried to lose any weight so when I happens I feel like I'm messing up... It's all in my head my wife says I look better and the other day when I got dressed I was looking veiny and I liked it I think I might b done weighing in till the end

[Ecto]

I'm just tired of Being the skinny kid...... I just want to b big

I hear ya there. Never had a six back, but would love to have at least have 16" arms in my life, at least that.......

[layddually]

I hear ya there. Never had a six back, but would love to have at least have 16" arms in my life, at least that.......

You will get there. I would like to get back there.

[Skyling35]

I think that's what I'm having the hardest time w... I've never tried to lose any weight so when I happens I feel like I'm messing up... It's all in my head my wife says I look better and the other day when I got dressed I was looking veiny and I liked it I think I might b done weighing in till the end

I rarely get on a scale anymore its a mindfuck. Best to stay out of your head that's where trouble starts.

[layddually]

So where is the thread for placing bets on the contest?

[Orange24]

Any progress pics?

[layddually]

Any progress pics?

Mine are in my log

[layddually]

Side by side of before and 6 days in wasn't trying to flex abs but they are flexed a little was trying to show how my left lat lacks compared to right652653

[Ecto]

Damn Lay. You better be at the shop at work or on that new fruit -n- fiber diet, cause that's alot of toilet paper. LOL

[layddually]

Damn Lay. You better be at the shop at work or on that new fruit -n- fiber diet, cause that's alot of toilet paper. LOL

That for my cutting diet low cals. shhhh don't tell anyone my secret.

[roy13]

Only post contest relevant pics and comments here. "SMACK" is allowed here so be kind or be cocky!! But be courteous. Now introduce yourself and your starting weight and height! If you have joined say so here!! Let the games begin!!


yep time to get started,
185lbs
6 ft
18% bf
help!
50yrs old btw if that matters

[REGGOR]

Roy are you joining the contest ??

[Fit Guru]

Side by side of before and 6 days in wasn't trying to flex abs but they are flexed a little was trying to show how my left lat lacks compared to right652653

Even my wife said"oh wow,he even looks bigger" good job!!

[Fit Guru]

yep time to get started,
185lbs
6 ft
18% bf
help!
50yrs old btw if that matters

Email me at. Fit.guru@gmail.com if you want in

[roy13]

yes, what else do i need to do?

[REGGOR]

yes, what else do i need to do?

Email .. Fit.guru@gmail.com if you want in..

[REGGOR]

Side by side of before and 6 days in wasn't trying to flex abs but they are flexed a little was trying to show how my left lat lacks compared to right652653


looking leaner already bro.. You are going to be a pain in my side..

[layddually]

looking leaner already bro.. You are going to be a pain in my side..

There is a visible difference in your pics also.

[Fit Guru]

There is a visible difference in your pics also.

Who's y'all's trainer again? Slips my mind? Lol

[layddually]

Who's y'all's trainer again? Slips my mind? Lol

I forget as well. LOL

Guru is the man follow his plans you will get where you want. It may take a few weeks to get dialed in but he will get you there.

[REGGOR]

Well the guy that has helped me from last spring till now is from another site BIGSHANE.. He has been in the life style for 20 years and has been a huge help to me .. He does not have any contest prep expeance but he has plenty of expeariance in the gym.

Of course you are my diet guy and in a few months hoping to hire you as my all around trainer to get me to my first show. I have to set big goals if i am going to do big things i just need to get back up to speed from my set back .. Once i invest in your full service's i need to be 100 % so i dont waste your time..

[layddually]

Im gonna be getting all that fat back I had to much cake and pizza yesterday.

[Fit Guru]

Well the guy that has helped me from last spring till now is from another site BIGSHANE.. He has been in the life style for 20 years and has been a huge help to me .. He does not have any contest prep expeance but he has plenty of expeariance in the gym.

Of course you are my diet guy and in a few months hoping to hire you as my all around trainer to get me to my first show. I have to set big goals if i am going to do big things i just need to get back up to speed from my set back .. Once i invest in your full service's i need to be 100 % so i dont waste your time..

I'm the top trainer and contest prep Coach in my state. All my people win their classes or overalls. Last year I had 8 novice competitors win their class and 6 were natural.

[Fit Guru]

Im gonna be getting all that fat back I had to much cake and pizza yesterday.

You didn't ??!! Diet all week and blow it in one day?? NOT ME!!

[Vicious 13]

Don't make it too easy for me guys

[REGGOR]

Don't listen to those guys . Every body eats pizza and cake as part of there training.. just make sure you eat it every weekend..

[layddually]

Don't listen to those guys . Every body eats pizza and cake as part of there training.. just make sure you eat it every weekend..

The way my body is if I actually do cardio I could. I did cardio one day last week it was hard so I quit lol.

[Vicious 13]

I'm afraid to work abs now :/

[layddually]

I'm afraid to work abs now :/

I don't do abs get hit enough right now doing squats,DL,etc

[Vicious 13]

I like working them sometimes I feel like I see an 8 pack so I'm curious what I can do there

[layddually]

I like working them sometimes I feel like I see an 8 pack so I'm curious what I can do there

Because of the issue you had I would say don't bother but since you feel you need to do them. Try hanging leg raises and other ab work besides crunches. I don't bother with abs because I hit them doing other stuff. Now If I was like 5% bf I would probably hit them a little.

[Fit Guru]

The way my body is if I actually do cardio I could. I did cardio one day last week it was hard so I quit lol.

You need 30 min 5x a week right now

[Vicious 13]

I work abs a lot when I'm training bjj so they are going to get worked no matter what... I think I'm going to try to drink more water

[REGGOR]

yep time to get started,
185lbs
6 ft
18% bf
help!
50yrs old btw if that matters

ROY where you at ?? you jumpin in bro ??

[layddually]

You need 30 min 5x a week right now

Lol yea yea I know :(

[roy13]

Contacted

[REGGOR]

Contacted

Awesome lets show this young guys how its done..

[Vicious 13]

Mucho blah blah blah

[layddually]

Mucho blah blah blah

What's that saying v? Oh yea can't teach an old dog new tricks. ;)

[kazman68]

Like the friendly smack talk going on here, old vs young..give it hell guys.

[layddually]

Like the friendly smack talk going on here, old vs young..give it hell guys.

Lol yea but I'm not sure if I'm on the old side or young. Dam it sucks not being in my 20's

[kazman68]

Lol yea but I'm not sure if I'm on the old side or young. Dam it sucks not being in my 20's

I hear you...just give 100% which I'm sure you will..I'm 44 but a lot of times think like I'm in my 20-30's I guess that's why I have been in so much trouble :)

[REGGOR]

What's that saying v? Oh yea can't teach an old dog new tricks. ;)

Thats just a myth .. Just watch as this old man puts the beat down on you young guys..

[Fit Guru]

I hear you...just give 100% which I'm sure you will..I'm 44 but a lot of times think like I'm in my 20-30's I guess that's why I have been in so much trouble :)

Same here Kaz I stay in trouble

[layddually]

Haven't been to the gym in two days hopefully will make it today.

[Ecto]

Haven't been to the gym in two days hopefully will make it today.

I'm beginning to think it was a waste to enter. Between me missing all last week being sick and staying up late this week because my son has some issue going on that is mysterious and missing today's workout, I am not getting off to a good start. I never miss workouts, this is a first for me. Grrrr...off to the shower. :(

[REGGOR]

I am having a slow start too .. Thats all right that just keeps this any bodys game.. Good luck bros today is a freash start ...

[Fit Guru]

I'm beginning to think it was a waste to enter. Between me missing all last week being sick and staying up late this week because my son has some issue going on that is mysterious and missing today's workout, I am not getting off to a good start. I never miss workouts, this is a first for me. Grrrr...off to the shower. :(

Don't sweat it bro. U got a long way to go. In 8 weeks u won't even remember this.

[Fit Guru]

You know some guys are off to a fast start and some slow but in the end win or lose you will still accomplish something u never have before. Most if not all will still see changes in your body u never have. Even if you half ass it. Keep up the good work guys!!!

[layddually]

No changes in weight still 205 this week.

[Ecto]

178.8 this week. Lost 1 lb., of course I haven't exactly followed diet to the teeth this week. Getting in that whole breakfast this week was difficult....this next week I'm going to allow for my time to make sure I can cook my eggs. Getting the oatmeal is no problem. I haven't done any cardio either. My biggest contributor to a 5 lb loss in 2 weeks, is NO MILK....I hate it!!!! I would like to at least be able to drink half a gallon of skim milk a day. :(

[layddually]

178.8 this week. Lost 1 lb., of course I haven't exactly followed diet to the teeth this week. Getting in that whole breakfast this week was difficult....this next week I'm going to allow for my time to make sure I can cook my eggs. Getting the oatmeal is no problem. I haven't done any cardio either. My biggest contributor to a 5 lb loss in 2 weeks, is NO MILK....I hate it!!!! I would like to at least be able to drink half a gallon of skim milk a day. :(

I buy egglands best boiled eggs in a bag. Each Bag has 6 eggs I buy 14 bags at a time $2.49 a bag. Yes more expensive but very convenient. I feel your pain on the milk I love whole milk normally drink half gallons day.

[REGGOR]

I just drink egg whites from the box and whole raw eggs ... I have been drinking raw eggs for 2 weeks now and i am not getting sick..

[Orange24]

Bio-availability of uncooked eggs is 50%. Not worth it

[REGGOR]

I have seen alot of diffrant views about raw eggs.. I drink my eggs and raw oats just to save time .. so far so good..

[kazman68]

Same here Kaz I stay in trouble

Told you we were internet brothers!

[Fit Guru]

178.8 this week. Lost 1 lb., of course I haven't exactly followed diet to the teeth this week. Getting in that whole breakfast this week was difficult....this next week I'm going to allow for my time to make sure I can cook my eggs. Getting the oatmeal is no problem. I haven't done any cardio either. My biggest contributor to a 5 lb loss in 2 weeks, is NO MILK....I hate it!!!! I would like to at least be able to drink half a gallon of skim milk a day. :(

Ill be honest with you. I don't know a single bodybuilder that drinks milk. As Arnold once said"milk is for babies"

[Vicious 13]

I'm a welder and I don't buy that

[Vicious 13]

Serious shit here... Gig please chime in... I'm handling meal one oatmeal eggs bLaxk Coffee
Meal 2 6oz chicken tablebspoon or we green beans my wive weighs out
Meal 3 6oz chicken 1 cup brown rice;sjit load of rice
Meal 4 shake
Meal 5 chocked and like a can a corn of green beams.. I can't do
I
Meal 6 shake

[Vicious 13]

Please delete I'd ingot too detailed
I'm sorry

[kazman68]

I have seen alot of diffrant views about raw eggs.. I drink my eggs and raw oats just to save time .. so far so good..

Drank raw eggs for years on and off never had a problem.

[Vicious 13]

Yum

[Ecto]

I weighed 180.8 this morning. Anybody else's program going slow???

[layddually]

Idk what the hell happened last week but I lost a few lbs I weighted this morning and at 203 I was like wtf took out tape and haven't lost size but haven't grown.

[REGGOR]

This week was great for me as far as training goes.. I am not as sore any more and weights have gone up .. This coming week should be at 100 % well atleast thats how i am feeling.. I will post this week pics tommorow..

I am still far from needing a diet change .. I will first need to be going at 100 % before i need any type of dialing in...

[Vicious 13]

This was a tough one for me but I'm going to rest up and see if Monday I can get back at it

[Fit Guru]

I can tell who's used to dieting and who's not. People who get freaked out every time their weight fluctuates 1 lb usually take it into their own hands then really screw everything up and blame it on the diet. I see it all the time.

[Fit Guru]

I weighed 180.8 this morning. Anybody else's program going slow???

Ecto if you go back and read your post and the emails you've sent me you stated yourself at one point u hadnt been following the diet properly. Then you missed workouts. It's not the program that's going slow . Don't want to come off sounding harsh but when you ask others if the "program" is going slow you might want to look at your own first and WHY it might be! Hang in there.

[layddually]

I know where my problem is its this pos scale. Said 203 Friday this moring 210 or I have a massive dump on the way. Lol As far as my tape readings go I haven't gained or lost since last week. I'm curious could this screwed up sleep I'm getting be holding my gains back?

[Vicious 13]

Fuck u guys! The second I can get out of this bed it's fucking on... Well shower first and then it's on

[REGGOR]

Shit i am just trying to get my old body moving again.. I now can train and not wake up in the morning so sore i cant even get out of bed..
Time to turn up the heat.. This is my third week back after being off for 3 months and i feel i am on course and moving foward with out injury...

[Ecto]

Ecto if you go back and read your post and the emails you've sent me you stated yourself at one point u hadnt been following the diet properly. Then you missed workouts. It's not the program that's going slow . Don't want to come off sounding harsh but when you ask others if the "program" is going slow you might want to look at your own first and WHY it might be! Hang in there.

Oh, I'm not complaining about diet. If anything is slow it's all my fault for sure, I don't blame, I own my faults. I'm bitchin' just to bitch, boredom sit in. LOL

[Fit Guru]

Oh, I'm not complaining about diet. If anything is slow it's all my fault for sure, I don't blame, I own my faults. I'm bitchin' just to bitch, boredom sit in. LOL

Lol I'm not above bustin some chips here and there!

[kazman68]

Ill be honest with you. I don't know a single bodybuilder that drinks milk. As Arnold once said"milk is for babies"

I agree 100%. Milk is for children, no other mammal as an adult drinks milk, from their own species let alone another one. I think past the age of 3 or so we quit producing lactase, which enables our bodies to digest lactose.

[layddually]

As you can see I was having problems not much change 749

[Ecto]

Merry Christmas. Fellow contesters, get ready, cause I'm fixing to blow up like Frank Zane in this bitch!!!! Fear my Growth!!!! LMAO. Prepare to lose.

[Vicious 13]

I cut my cycle short after this flu... I wanted to finish this cycle strong but I think ultimately my body needs a rest... I'm going to rely on good diet and hard work to bring tears to your eyes.... Gonna give it a good month or two try to get wife pregnant then focus on another cycle... I got crazy gains on this cycle up like 20+ lbs at one point... Going to try my hardest to stay in the 170 area and next cycle try to make that jump to 180 were I want to b...

[mj_0360]

I cut my cycle short after this flu... I wanted to finish this cycle strong but I think ultimately my body needs a rest... I'm going to rely on good diet and hard work to bring tears to your eyes.... Gonna give it a good month or two try to get wife pregnant then focus on another cycle... I got crazy gains on this cycle up like 20+ lbs at one point... Going to try my hardest to stay in the 170 area and next cycle try to make that jump to 180 were I want to b...


I want to get my girl prego too bro. I need to come of sometime as well..

[Ecto]

Man, I have turned into a pussy. The Bulgarian split squats whipped my ass, and it was weak with lightweight. Really need to work these wheels. I am so used to nothing but compund movements and my quads are weak, so the unilateral work is brutal, but damn i love the burn.

[layddually]

I'm sick... We all seem to be a bunch of pansies.

[Ecto]

okay, so i went to Myfitnesspal, and logged my food I ate today. HOLY SHIT!!!! I am undereating. I don't see how the pounds aren't just flying off of me. I'm only eating 2100 calories a day, which is 239g of protein, 160g carbs, 64g fat. No wonder I never get big. I mean sure I can drink half a gallon of milk like I used to get the cals up to 3000 in no time but, i cut my milk out. I need to eat more carbs I guess. Man I feel like a total NOOB!!! I try to follow FitGuru plan, but just don't have time to eat like that.

[Ecto]

I almost go off track and switched to a hypertrophy routine, Pffff....whatever, I ain't nowhere near a bodybuilding routine yet. This article always keeps me grounded, except for doing gear, which, even though I am Low T and only doing TRT, I probably shouldn't do that either. Not good at my age. I'm about to go back to Natty...

http://muscleandbrawn.com/are-you-a-beginner-intermediate-or-advanced-lifter/

[Fit Guru]

okay, so i went to Myfitnesspal, and logged my food I ate today. HOLY SHIT!!!! I am undereating. I don't see how the pounds aren't just flying off of me. I'm only eating 2100 calories a day, which is 239g of protein, 160g carbs, 64g fat. No wonder I never get big. I mean sure I can drink half a gallon of milk like I used to get the cals up to 3000 in no time but, i cut my milk out. I need to eat more carbs I guess. Man I feel like a total NOOB!!! I try to follow FitGuru plan, but just don't have time to eat like that.

Everyone wants to get big but don't want to do what it takes to get there. I know most people here aren't elite BB but all the big guys litterally eat til their sick then eat more.im telling you living the bodybuilding lifestyle is a pain in the ass. It's expensive and it takes dedication. People think they can take drugs and go thrust McDonald's drivethru's 3x a day and get big and lean. It's a lifestyle change. Totally! When people get ready for shows its 26 weeks of not missing a single meal. I would be willing to say 75% of the people I write diets for tell me it's impossible for them to follow. Their job, their wives, their finances, their schedule, school. I've heard it all. It doesn't happen by Osmosis.

[kazman68]

Everyone wants to get big but don't want to do what it takes to get there. I know most people here aren't elite BB but all the big guys litterally eat til their sick then eat more.im telling you living the bodybuilding lifestyle is a pain in the ass. It's expensive and it takes dedication. People think they can take drugs and go thrust McDonald's drivethru's 3x a day and get big and lean. It's a lifestyle change. Totally! When people get ready for shows its 26 weeks of not missing a single meal. I would be willing to say 75% of the people I write diets for tell me it's impossible for them to follow. Their job, their wives, their finances, their schedule, school. I've heard it all. It doesn't happen by Osmosis.


Very true Fit..It's not something you can do an hour a day and forget about, It takes lots of planning and time. I used to always carry my meals wherever I went. If I was in a hurry at work I'd gulp down raw oats, mixed with protein powder and water, and take some fish oil for efa..Guys don't realize how much it takes, and when they do their statement of "I will do anything to get big " goes to shit. It's so much more than sticking your self in the ass and lifting weights for an hour.

[Ecto]

I did however get in 2800 calories today, which is where I need to be to put on weight and not fat, 280g carbs, 180g protein, but it took eating like I did yesterday and almost half a gallon of milk. I sat down today and reset my goals for this coming year. I do want to get big, but it is going to take me no less than 3 or 4 years to maybe look like I at least go to the gym and consider myself an intermediate lifter. So it's back to Starting Strength followed by Madcow 5x5 for this year and maybe next. I would just be happy with looking like a powerlifter, i don't have to be a Frank Zane, and i don't lift like that anyway. I should see some nice results this year, if I just take her slow and steady, and just be patient, looking forward to the journey :)

[kazman68]

I did however get in 2800 calories today, which is where I need to be to put on weight and not fat, 280g carbs, 180g protein, but it took eating like I did yesterday and almost half a gallon of milk. I sat down today and reset my goals for this coming year. I do want to get big, but it is going to take me no less than 3 or 4 years to maybe look like I at least go to the gym and consider myself an intermediate lifter. So it's back to Starting Strength followed by Madcow 5x5 for this year and maybe next. I would just be happy with looking like a powerlifter, i don't have to be a Frank Zane, and i don't lift like that anyway. I should see some nice results this year, if I just take her slow and steady, and just be patient, looking forward to the journey :)


Keep at it! Consistency is one of the keys to success.

[Orange24]

Ecto you got pics?

[Ecto]

Yeah, my pics are at the very beginning of this thread.

[Fit Guru]

It's really hard to watch and gauge and change people's diets when they don't follow them in the first place. Think about something. If you don't know enough about nutrition in the first place and a veteran trainer who has trained hundreds of competitors puts u on a diet then you take it into your own hands to change the diet because "muscular development" or "flex" said do it another way, u are going to fail every time. I can tell u 1 thing NOONE in the bodybuilding world I know of drinks milk! None! It wasn't til I came on the forums did I see people who just had to have their milk.dont over think this shit. And I hope to shoot u another diet by tonight!

[Ecto]

It's really hard to watch and gauge and change people's diets when they don't follow them in the first place. Think about something. If you don't know enough about nutrition in the first place and a veteran trainer who has trained hundreds of competitors puts u on a diet then you take it into your own hands to change the diet because "muscular development" or "flex" said do it another way, u are going to fail every time. I can tell u 1 thing NOONE in the bodybuilding world I know of drinks milk! None! It wasn't til I came on the forums did I see people who just had to have their milk.dont over think this shit. And I hope to shoot u another diet by tonight!

LOL. It's all good, don't be mad FG, I ain't trying to piss you off. Don't get worked up over it, I'm not. Just trying to get my cals up, no biggie. I just can't eat that clean and get my cals in. I don't have a schedule that permits me to do it. I honestly don't expect to win this transformation anyhow, but it's fun to participate. I'm still a noobie and have a lot to learn on my diet, which hey, we all make mistakes, at least I'm going forward in progress, that's all that matters.....and for the first time at least I'm learning how to count my cals, carbs, and protein and see how it fits altogether. Shoot if you have to boot me out for not following rules....LOL.

[Fit Guru]

LOL. It's all good, don't be mad FG, I ain't trying to piss you off. Don't get worked up over it, I'm not. Just trying to get my cals up, no biggie. I just can't eat that clean and get my cals in. I don't have a schedule that permits me to do it. I honestly don't expect to win this transformation anyhow, but it's fun to participate. I'm still a noobie and have a lot to learn on my diet, which hey, we all make mistakes, at least I'm going forward in progress, that's all that matters.....and for the first time at least I'm learning how to count my cals, carbs, and protein and see how it fits altogether. Shoot if you have to boot me out for not following rules....LOL.

Just making observations.you wouldn't be the first client pissed off at me.lol..people have no idea how tough it is til they start.

[kazman68]

Just making observations.you wouldn't be the first client pissed off at me.lol..people have no idea how tough it is til they start.

Agree again as usual Fit, it's a big change for people, I agree with Milk as well, I had one guy try to tell my peanut-butter was a good source of protein..How can a food that is around 14% protein be called 'a good source'??? that;s the ignorance you have to battle with..Btw peanut-butter is a great FAT source, I mix 2 tbs with my night protein shake for added fat and slow the absorption.

[Vicious 13]

Peanut butter has its place but I wouldn't say that it's a good protein source. I also love milk too though... Especially chocolate milk... I haven't been drinking much lately though trying to follow diet I'm not even using it in my shakes anymore

[Fit Guru]

Peanut butter has its place but I wouldn't say that it's a good protein source. I also love milk too though... Especially chocolate milk... I haven't been drinking much lately though trying to follow diet I'm not even using it in my shakes anymore

Omg I just told my wife that"chocolate milk in protein shakes" she died laughing!!!!! She said "now I'd do that"!!! I couldn't imagine doing that.lol...I can't imagine using 2% milk.noone does that!!NO ONE!!!!not in the fitness world anyway!!!!!!hell I'd drink 29 shakes a day!!! Lol

[Vicious 13]

Lol I like whole milk ;)