Need help sleeping!!

[Fuelfan]

I could really use some help getting some sleep. I don't know what the hell is wrong with me but I haven't been sleeping at all lately. I lay in bed and I can remember the whole night. Because of my job I can't take Ambien or anything like that so i'm thinking i'm needing something natural, any suggestions? Thanks for your help!

[Manny1983]

Are you stressed out at all for any reason? Stress could be messing with your ability to relax fall asleep and stay asleep. If you got some stress going on I'd suggest going to get some therapeutic massage along with working on whatever is stressing you out bro.

[Fuelfan]

Yeah brother I got a shit ton of stress going on but I don't see that going away anytime soon!

[Bruiser]

I use a sleep/recovery supplement. Here's the ones that have helped a lot.
Animal PM
MRI Red Repair
Westside Performance Nutrition Escape

I alternate from month to month so I don't get too use to one blend.

[neoclassical]

Try some melatonin at 3-9mg with a cup of valerian root tea.

[Fit Guru]

Diphenhydramine . I take it every night

[Fit Guru]

Oh and if your on clenbuterol it keeps your receptors clean.

[SisterSteel]

Here are a few OTC supplements you can take to aid in falling and staying asleep:

1. VALERIAN
Most experts recommended this herb to reduce the amount of time it takes to nod off. Valerian seems to have sedative properties, and it may increase the amount of GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid), a compound in the brain that prevents the transmission of nerve impulses.

2. 5-HTP
A compound derived from the amino acid L-tryptophan, the supplement also is used to enhance mood and decrease appetite. 5-HTP acts as a precursor to serotonin, which is a neurotransmitter that is essential for a good night’s sleep. “It is better than L-tryptophan because 5-HTP can cross the blood-brain barrier and thus increase serotonin in the brain.” A small 2009 study of 18 people found that those who took a product combining 5-HTP and GABA needed less time to fall asleep, slept longer and reported improved sleep quality.

3. MELATONIN
A hormone that regulates the normal sleep/wake cycle, “melatonin can be used in supplement form as an occasional sleep aid, and is especially effective against jet lag. When combined with light therapy, melatonin helps minimize nighttime restlessness in elderly dementia patients, according to a 2008 study.

4. MAGNESIUM
Along with contributing to a good night’s sleep, this light, silvery metallic element is an oft-overlooked nutrient that helps maintain normal muscle and nerve function, keeps heart rhythm steady, supports a healthy immune system, and keeps bones strong. Magnesium also helps regulate blood sugar levels, and promotes normal blood pressure. Lack of magnesium inhibits nerve cell communication, which leads to cell excitability. The result: a stressed and nervous person. Several studies show that magnesium can improve sleep quality and reduce nocturnal awakenings.

[Fuelfan]

Thanks for your help! Not much worse than walking around like a zombie all day.

[kazman68]

Oh and if your on clenbuterol it keeps your receptors clean.

I do this^^^ 1 every night, I have had anxiety,insomnia problems, between that and my prescribed 1 mg of klonopin It's much better.

[Dvs1676]

I take some sleeping tea with melotonin and 5HTP but sometimes I get this mind racing thing and it keeps me up all night.

[xdude]

I do melatonin time released... my understanding is melatonin helps you stay a sleep..
a trick for getting to sleep.. is a just use the relaxation technique often used in hypnosis..
start with focusing on your left toe .. ( ie small) release the the tension in the toe, relax it completely
go down the arch , the heel etc.. take as long as necessary to relax each piece..
and continue up the leg..then start on the right leg ...then up body.. you can go to larger body parts faster as you get better.. by the time I get to chest I can do the whole chest in one swoop... do the back separate (very important you break it up..most of my tension is in the traps.
with the head , go slow ( relax the jaw , mouth , eyes, forehead , top of the head , behind the ear , traps) the head is part you need to shut down.. take your time ..

if you make through once then repeat .. I have very rarely needed to do it more than once..

the trick is to make sure you are releasing what ever, always start slow and small..

your goal is shutting down the brain.. so you give the brain something to do . that is relaxing the body.

give that a try. works for me .

[xdude]

found this here.. forgot about the deep breathes ..

http://www.psywww.com/asc/hyp/art/ind14.html

now stretch out on your back, with your legs separated, so that no part of your calves or thighs are touching. Keep feet separated at least 8 to 10 inches; arms extended loosely and limply alongside your body, palms facing downward and fingers limply outstretched.

Once we begin, you can help by remaining quiet and passive. Our first goal is for you to become unaware of your body. You can best achieve that goal by avoiding movement.

The first thing that I want you to do is to fix your eyes at a spot on the ceiling overhead. Pick out an imaginary spot, and stare at that spot without moving a muscle.

Now, take a deep breath and fill up your lungs. Exhale slowly. Sleep now.

Now, take a second and even deeper breath. Take in all the air that your lungs can hold. Exhale slowly. Sleep now.

Now, let your eyelids close down. Now, your eyelids are closed down. Please leave them closed down until I ask you to open them again. You will always be able to open your eyes, unless I were to give you a direct command and tell you that your eyelids are locked closed. And I don't intend to do that. Hypnosis is a state of mind, not a state of eyelids.

Now, I want you to mentally picture and imagine that you are looking at the muscles in the tips of the toes of your left foot. In your imagination, follow those muscles as they move back into the ball of the foot. In your imagination, follow those muscles as they move back into the ball of the foot. Back into the arch, and all the way back into the heel. Now, turn all those muscles loose. Let them grow limp and lazy, just like a handful of loose rubber bands.

Now, as the muscles begin to relax, just let your mind relax, too. Let your mind drift where it will. Let your mind drift off to pleasant scenes in you imagination.

And now, let the relaxation move on up, into the ankle now. From the ankle, all the way up to the left knee. The calf muscles begin to grow loose and limp -- heavy, and so relaxed.

All of your tensions are fading away. You're relaxing more with each easy breath that you take. Begin breathing more deeply, now, just as you breathe each night, when you are deep and sound in slumber. Just imagine that you can see your breath as a white mist, coming from your nostrils. Each and every time that you exhale this white mist, you are freeing yourself of tension, and going deeper, deeper into drowsy relaxation.

Now, from the knee, all the way to the left hip, the long thigh muscles are turning loose, easing off, and just relaxing now. Now, as those muscles relax, just let go a little more, and gently, calmly, easily, drift on over, into a pleasant state of easy relaxation.

Now let the wave of relaxation that started from the toes of your left foot just a few seconds ago -- let it move over now into the toes of the right foot, back into the arch, and all the way back to the heel. Turn all of those muscles loose, and go deeper and deeper into relaxation.

Into the ankle, the muscles let go. From the ankle, all the way up to the right knee. The calf muscles are turning loose and letting go.

You're relaxing more with each easy breath that you take. With each sound that you hear. Each sound carries you deeper, deeper and sounder in sleep.

From the knee, all the way up to the right hip. The long thigh muscles grow limp and lazy. Now, as those muscles relax, just go all the way down, deeper and deeper in drowsy slumber.

Turn them all loose and go deeper in sleep.

Now, the wave of relaxation moves on up, into the stomach now. Into the solar plexus, the center of nervous energy. Each muscle and nerve lets loose the tensions, relaxing. You're drifting down, deeper and deeper in sleep. Down, deeper in slumber.

Up through the ribs, the muscles relax. Into the broad muscles of the chest. The muscles of the chest grow limp and loose, and so relaxed. All of your tensions are fading away.

You're relaxing now, more with each easy beat of your heart, and going deeper in drowsy slumber.

Into the neck, the muscles let go. All around the neck, the muscles relax, just as they relax each night when you you are deep and sound in sleep. Turn them all loose, and go deeper and deeper in slumber. Now let the relaxation start down your back. From the base of the skull to the base of the spine. Each muscle and nerve along the spine lets loose the tension, relaxing, your drifting down. Deeper and deeper in sleep. down deeper in drowsy slumber.

And the wave of relaxation spreads out into the broad muscles of the back. All across the small of the back. All across the back of the shoul ders. Turn loose every muscle and every nerve in the back, and go deeper and deeper in sleep.

Into the shoulder, the muscles let go. From the shoulders, down to the elbows of both arms. The upper arm muscles are turning loose, easing off, and just relaxing now.

From the elbows, down to the wrists on both arms, the forearm muscles grow limp and lazy.

From the wrists to the fingertips of both hands, each muscle and nerve lets loose the tensions, relaxing, you're drifting down. Deeper and deeper in sleep.

Into the jaws, the muscles relax. The jaws are parting slightly, teeth not quite touching. All around the mouth, the muscles let go.

Up through the nose, each nerve gives way. All around the eyes, the muscles are heavy, and so relaxed. Even your eyebrows are relaxing now. Across the forehead, the muscles smooth out. Across the top of the skull. Down the back of the neck. Down through the temples, back around the ears, all of the muscles are loose, and lazy -- just like a handful of loose rubber bands.

And you may feel now, a pleasant tingling sensation in the tips of your toes, or in your fingertips -- a pleasant tingling sensation, growing stronger and stronger now, as your entire body is being bathed in the pleasant glow of complete and utter relaxation.

Now you are completely relaxed. Each muscle and nerve in your body is loose and limp and relaxed, and you feel good.

[red crayon]

Wow, I guess Im the pervert in the bunch, Sex works for me, even if I have to do it myself. Isnt being married a great thing then reality kicks in, lol.

[Fuelfan]

Wow, I guess Im the pervert in the bunch, Sex works for me, even if I have to do it myself. Isnt being married a great thing then reality kicks in, lol.

That's some funny shit right there! Brother, don't get me wrong i'm down with some crazy sex, but even that lately isn't working. I took zzzquil Wednesday night and slept like a baby and last night I tried some melatonin and that helped but not like the zzzquil.

[Ironguruera]

Zzzz quil is merely benedryl. 25mg worth. If it worked for u get some cheap benedryl.

I'm going to take some tonight and see how it works.
I figure 100mg bene/ 100mg 5-htp/ some valarian/ and magnesium should do the trick lol

[Fuelfan]

Zzzz quil is merely benedryl. 25mg worth. If it worked for u get some cheap benedryl.

I'm going to take some tonight and see how it works.
I figure 100mg bene/ 100mg 5-htp/ some valarian/ and magnesium should do the trick lol

Damn brother! That's probably enough to knock over a freight train! Enjoy your sleep my friend. Sounds like you and I have been i'm about the same boat.

[xdude]

Zzzz quil is merely benedryl. 25mg worth. If it worked for u get some cheap benedryl.

I'm going to take some tonight and see how it works.
I figure 100mg bene/ 100mg 5-htp/ some valarian/ and magnesium should do the trick lol

Wow I could use that every once in a while ... before surgery ;)

[Ironguruera]

didn't work at all. I'll try 6mg melotonin tonight and 50mg bene. I didn't wanna add the 5-htp just yet but I will tonight.

Ok so who sells ambian lol? or isn't lunesta also one?

[Fuelfan]

didn't work at all. I'll try 6mg melotonin tonight and 50mg bene. I didn't wanna add the 5-htp just yet but I will tonight.

Ok so who sells ambian lol? or isn't lunesta also one?

Just my .02 but the ambien is evil! I got so hooked on that shit I literally hallucinated for 3 days coming off it! I used it for about 3 years and started out on 5mg and got up to 75mg and ended up turning into speed for me. It was complete hell coming off those things and trust me brother I grew up in the 80's and know what a hallucination is! Try and find something else before making that step!

[Ironguruera]

Just my .02 but the ambien is evil! I got so hooked on that shit I literally hallucinated for 3 days coming off it! I used it for about 3 years and started out on 5mg and got up to 75mg and ended up turning into speed for me. It was complete hell coming off those things and trust me brother I grew up in the 80's and know what a hallucination is! Try and find something else before making that step!

Well thanks for that info brother! I hear ya the only drugs I use are aas and pct meds. I'm not one for script drugs. The natty shit is not working.
I'm going to ditch the oral tren I'm on for a bit as I feel that's what does it to me.

Hallucinations eh? Lol haven't had those since high school lol. a guy at work said he took ambian etc and was stuck between sleep world and awake. He said it was like the matrix lol.

Seems worse on workout nights I think I'm stimulating my nervous system to much as I workout at night.

Getting desperate for some sleep. I'm so tired last few days

[Wallycn]

Valerian root is all natural and works decently well.

[Ironguruera]

Valerian root is all natural and works decently well.

How much valarian ? I tried now brand sleep stuff it has valirian, hops, gama in it. I even tried that with 5-htp. Also tried hylands and another brand homeopathic stuff. Nothing with those either.

[Mattingly]

I just started taking Provigil (Modafinil). I have been exhausted during the day for months and then still couldn't sleep at night. Hopeful the Provigil reverses that plus the other benefits it is said to provide.

[Ironguruera]

I read up on it sounds promising! is al going to carry this ?

[Mattingly]

If testing goes well and interest is there I would expect so.

[Bruiser]

If you REALLY are having trouble sleeping, get a hold of Manny. He gives a great handjob... Lol

[Fuelfan]

Lmfao!

[Ironguruera]

If you REALLY are having trouble sleeping, get a hold of Manny. He gives a great handjob... Lol

Done and done! Lol!

[Bruiser]

Lmfao!


Done and done! Lol!

I heard he even had his own show called Handy Manny, but it turned out to be a kid's show...

[jerome simpson]

decaf green tea

[BigKev53]

Try some melatonin at 3-9mg with a cup of valerian root tea.

This works best for me

[Ironguruera]

I figured out why I can't sleep. I wake up all night wanting to hump my wife in half!
Damn u test!!