Shout-out to Kevin kazman68

[Old Iron]

I wanted to take a minute to give a HUGE thanks to Kevin;

I reached out to Kevin for some dietary advice a little while back. While I've been pretty successful at adding muscle, I've never been able to nail down my diet to be able to get the fat off w/o losing muscle at the same time. It was always one or the other--cut calories to lean out and lose a LOT of size/strength at the same time, or eat like a horse and put on a lot of excess fat along with the muscle.

Recently I asked Kevin about carb cycling--I had a rudimentary understanding of it, but I was never able to figure it out successfully. Kevin took the time to explain it to me in layman's terms, and I started the plan less than a week ago--and I'm ALREADY seeing positive results!

One meal at a time. One day at a time. One pound at a time.

Thank you brother.

[SFDan]

I always have the same issue. Glad you found help from Kaz. What are your stats? Goals?

[Old Iron]

6', currently hovering around 265#, down 50+ lbs since April when I started a strict low carb plan (basically Atkins) but I lost a LOT of size & strength doing that plan--hence the switch to carb cycling. I've always trained natty save for a couple PH runs (barely noticeable results at best) and a one-time dabble with tren that only lasted about 2 weeks.

Typical endomorph build, tend to store most of my fat viscerally. Best #'s are a 385 bench with a near miss on 400 5 minutes later (couldn't lock my elbows @ the top), a SUPER-easy 385 ass to ankles squat--but due to a back injury I sustained in the late `80's that still flares up, I never tried to go heavier. I was squatting 315 for 4 sets of 8 with ease at the time. Completely unable to deadlift due to the back issues--even going light (<135) throws it out and I'm down for 6 weeks to recuperate. Seated OHP 225X6X4, PR of 265X3.

Goals are simple--decent size and functional strength. Don't care about having visible abs, will be happy if I can see my Johnson w/o having to bend over.

[kazman68]

You are most welcome my brother, happy everything is working well for you.

[SFDan]

6', currently hovering around 265#, down 50+ lbs since April when I started a strict low carb plan (basically Atkins) but I lost a LOT of size & strength doing that plan--hence the switch to carb cycling. I've always trained natty save for a couple PH runs (barely noticeable results at best) and a one-time dabble with tren that only lasted about 2 weeks.

Typical endomorph build, tend to store most of my fat viscerally. Best #'s are a 385 bench with a near miss on 400 5 minutes later (couldn't lock my elbows @ the top), a SUPER-easy 385 ass to ankles squat--but due to a back injury I sustained in the late `80's that still flares up, I never tried to go heavier. I was squatting 315 for 4 sets of 8 with ease at the time. Completely unable to deadlift due to the back issues--even going light (<135) throws it out and I'm down for 6 weeks to recuperate. Seated OHP 225X6X4, PR of 265X3.

Goals are simple--decent size and functional strength. Don't care about having visible abs, will be happy if I can see my Johnson w/o having to bend over.

You are a strong dude and it will all come back in time. Have you thought of TRT to help you at this point? Ever get your levels checked?

[kazman68]

You are a strong dude and it will all come back in time. Have you thought of TRT to help you at this point? Ever get your levels checked?
Last time he was checked he was around 400, and his 'doctor' flat out refused to talk about it.

[Old Iron]

Like Kevin said, I had my levels tested in `15, they came back at 466 total (300-890 ng/dl window), no other info was provided. Doc wouldn't even discuss putting me on trt.

[kazman68]

Like Kevin said, I had my levels tested in `15, they came back at 466 total (300-890 ng/dl window), no other info was provided. Doc wouldn't even discuss putting me on trt.
BS and didn't even bother to check e2, unbound test levels or thyroid etc..

[Layddually2]

I was labeled an abuser where I have to go if I want to use insurance they won't give me test anymore.

[ordawg1]

I was labeled an abuser where I have to go if I want to use insurance they won't give me test anymore.

Why bother ? Test is cheap - a few bucks to put up with idiots just isn't worth it -OD

[kazman68]

Why bother ? Test is cheap - a few bucks to put up with idiots just isn't worth it -OD

Absolutely pharmacy charges $88 for a 200/mg bottle of cyp, complete rip off.

[Old Iron]

Wow--a friend of mine who was prescribed trt was paying $110+ for a 200 mg bottle of cyp.

[kazman68]

Wow--a friend of mine who was prescribed trt was paying $110+ for a 200 mg bottle of cyp.
Man that is hand over fit considering how cheap it is to make.

[ordawg1]

When I fill it costs me about $30 for a 10 ml/200 mg/ml jug . I use this jug when I travel overseas - I think the last one was Sun Pharma ?? I prefer Docs T400 - more bang for the buck -Pops

[kazman68]

When I fill it costs me about $30 for a 10 ml/200 mg/ml jug . I use this jug when I travel overseas - I think the last one was Sun Pharma ?? I prefer Docs T400 - more bang for the buck -Pops
In full agreement ^ Good old caveman test blend ) Yes and doc's is potent for sure.

[SFDan]

Why bother ? Test is cheap - a few bucks to put up with idiots just isn't worth it -OD

Exactly!

[kazman68]

Oh can someone refresh my memory on doc's t400, mg/ester's?

[Slayer]

200mg Enathate and 200mg Cyp.

[kazman68]

200mg Enathate and 200mg Cyp.

Thanks brother, just had a mind fart on which blend it was.

[SFDan]

A couple months ago while I was waiting for approval from new insurance, I asked the pharmacist how much for a 10ml 200mg per vial of test costs without insurance and they told me $240.

[Slayer]

I dont know how many times I have said this but I am in the wrong profession. The medical field is where all the money is!

[kazman68]

I dont know how many times I have said this but I am in the wrong profession. The medical field is where all the money is!

True but it's filled with corruption,and incompetency as well.+ Big Pharma Not a road I will go down I prefer to work outside the system myself. Not knocking all medical practitioners because their are some great ones but they are some really bad, shady ones as well.

[kazman68]

A couple months ago while I was waiting for approval from new insurance, I asked the pharmacist how much for a 10ml 200mg per vial of test costs without insurance and they told me $240.

Perfect example of Big pharma corruption, that is insane.^

[Slayer]

And the government lets them get away with it because they are corrupt! Maybe I should be in politics?!?

[kazman68]

And the government lets them get away with it because they are corrupt! Maybe I should be in politics?!?

We could use some honest, good people in many fields that is probably number 1 though.

[SFDan]

Perfect example of Big pharma corruption, that is insane.^

The maddening thing is that I remember not that long ago before TRT became so mainstream the Pharma price with no insurance was $75 or so.

[kazman68]

The maddening thing is that I remember not that long ago before TRT became so mainstream the Pharma price with no insurance was $75 or so.

Yes I agree, now doctors are shying away from it completely it seems.