MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

[MuscleAddiction]

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Update...hit shoulders and biceps this morning, was getting compliments on my physique from a few people, the pump and vascularity was still prevalent from training this morning. Sleep is great and damn wife and I had an evening to ourselves (daughter was at a sleepover) and the sex we had was mind blowing!!! I am a little tired right now due to eating a huge meal, so maybe a quick nap just because I love naps. I plan on using this product up to my show, 16 weeks out today and am on target. Mike has a great supplement here...not surprised if we see it out of stock more once others find out IT WORKS!!!

Mike, when should I have bloodwork done?

[ordawg1]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

Have heard many great reports -OD

[Mike Arnold]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

Update...hit shoulders and biceps this morning, was getting compliments on my physique from a few people, the pump and vascularity was still prevalent from training this morning. Sleep is great and damn wife and I had an evening to ourselves (daughter was at a sleepover) and the sex we had was mind blowing!!! I am a little tired right now due to eating a huge meal, so maybe a quick nap just because I love naps. I plan on using this product up to my show, 16 weeks out today and am on target. Mike has a great supplement here...not surprised if we see it out of stock more once others find out IT WORKS!!!

Mike, when should I have bloodwork done?

I would wait a good 30 days to get your IGF-1 levels tested, as IGF-1 levels will continue to rise when using MK-677 for at least 1 year. However, by 30 days they are already significantly elevated. If you only wait 1-2 weeks, your reading won't be accurate. You need to give your body time for IGF-1 levels to rise adequately...and this takes about 30 days.

IGF-1 levels is a more accurate indicator of GH levels. Why? For one, it is important to understand that IGF-1 levels will only increase as GH levels increase...and it does so in direct proportion to GH. But the reason why IGF-1 levels are a more reliable indicator of GH levels (and also why doctors use IGF-1 levels to measure GH levels much more frequently than GH levels themselves), is because IGF-1 levels remain relatively stable once elevated, with GH levels are constantly fluctuating. This is especially true with MK-677. You see, MK-677 GH is released in "pulses"--about 12 pulses per day over a 24 hour period. So, even if you catch a pulse at its peak, it is only going to give you a reading based on that one pulse...not all 12. However, if you measure IGF-1 levels, it is going to give you an IGF-1 ready commensurate with the body's total GH production, NOT just what is happening during a single pulse.

Even when using injectable GH, which releases fairly evenly over roughly an 8 hour period, doctors still normally rely on IGF-1 testing in order to assess GH levels. This is because it is generally considered the more accurate and reliable method of determining how much GH has been circulating throughout the body. The bottom line is that IGF-1's stability eliminates guesswork and potential errors. Since we already how much injectable GH we would need to take in order to reach a certain IGF-1 level, your IGF-1 reading will tell us how many iu's the Somatozine has been equal to...for you.

However, IGF-1 levels only tell part of the story with Somatozine...because Somatozine is also designed to increase IGFBP-3 levels to a greater degree than regular MK-677. This is important because IGFBP-3 plays a huge role in determining both the half-life and bioavailability of IGF-1 in the body. In other words, the higher your IGFBP-3 levels are, the more effectively your body will be able to use the IGF-1 it produces in order to stimulate recovery, growth, and fat loss. IGFBP-3 literally acts as a transporter for IGF-1...carrying it to the muscle cell. It also increases the amount of time it stays active in the body, so this hormone matters.

So, if you can, have your IGFBP-3 levels measured as well. It would be interested to see what they are, even if you don't have a baseline for comparison.

[Mike Arnold]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

Have heard many great reports -OD

Thanks, OD. Yeah, the positive reports are starting to pile up. Actually, I haven't heard anything but positive reports. Of course, there are some guys who don't like some of the characteristic effects of MK-677, such as appetite stimulation, etc...but that is simply a matter of personal opinion, not product effectiveness. MK-677 is a bad-ass compound--the only orally bioavailable compound capable of actually mimicking the effects of injectable GH.

[xdude]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

there is no need to cycle ... you can stay on mk-677 for a year?
is this because it just stimulates gh?

[Big Hoss]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

Update...hit shoulders and biceps this morning, was getting compliments on my physique from a few people, the pump and vascularity was still prevalent from training this morning. Sleep is great and damn wife and I had an evening to ourselves (daughter was at a sleepover) and the sex we had was mind blowing!!! I am a little tired right now due to eating a huge meal, so maybe a quick nap just because I love naps. I plan on using this product up to my show, 16 weeks out today and am on target. Mike has a great supplement here...not surprised if we see it out of stock more once others find out IT WORKS!!!

Mike, when should I have bloodwork done?

That's awesome MA! I guess I'll have to jump on that bandwagon too!

[Big Hoss]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

Update...hit shoulders and biceps this morning, was getting compliments on my physique from a few people, the pump and vascularity was still prevalent from training this morning. Sleep is great and damn wife and I had an evening to ourselves (daughter was at a sleepover) and the sex we had was mind blowing!!! I am a little tired right now due to eating a huge meal, so maybe a quick nap just because I love naps. I plan on using this product up to my show, 16 weeks out today and am on target. Mike has a great supplement here...not surprised if we see it out of stock more once others find out IT WORKS!!!

Mike, when should I have bloodwork done?

That's awesome MA! I guess I'll have to jump on that bandwagon too!

[Mike Arnold]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

there is no need to cycle ... you can stay on mk-677 for a year?
is this because it just stimulates gh?

Yes, you can stay on it year-round. In fact, research shows that it continues increasing IGF-1 level for at least a year! Unlike exogenous GH, Somatozine does not shutdown negatively affect the GH/IGF-1 feedback loop, so you can literally take it for years and when you go off your body just goes back to normal. there is no recovery involved.

Furthermore, unlike exogenous GH, Somatozine does not lead to anti-body formation...because it is naturally produced growth hormone. It also leads to a balanced increases in all the different isoforms of GH, rather than just one like exo. GH.

[xdude]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

Yes, you can stay on it year-round. In fact, research shows that it continues increasing IGF-1 level for at least a year! Unlike exogenous GH, Somatozine does not shutdown negatively affect the GH/IGF-1 feedback loop, so you can literally take it for years and when you go off your body just goes back to normal. there is no recovery involved.

Furthermore, unlike exogenous GH, Somatozine does not lead to anti-body formation...because it is naturally produced growth hormone. It also leads to a balanced increases in all the different isoforms of GH, rather than just one like exo. GH.

Thanks for the info, something I may be imagining , I took mk677 for about 3 weeks , but since then I have been sleeping like a log..and that was about 6 weeks ago...I am sleeping later ( 7 AM instead of 4-5 AM ) I don't normally sleep this well so I am not complaining ... is it possible it did some sort of reset to my sleeping pattern. I know gh is linked to sleeping well.. So this would not surprise me ,

I stopped because I got a little carpil tunnel.. that could be a bad desk/chair combo though

[Mike Arnold]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

Thanks for the info, something I may be imagining , I took mk677 for about 3 weeks , but since then I have been sleeping like a log..and that was about 6 weeks ago...I am sleeping later ( 7 AM instead of 4-5 AM ) I don't normally sleep this well so I am not complaining ... is it possible it did some sort of reset to my sleeping pattern. I know gh is linked to sleeping well.. So this would not surprise me ,

I stopped because I got a little carpil tunnel.. that could be a bad desk/chair combo though

I have never heard anyone else say that, so I couldn't say for sure, but I can't think of any mechanism through which it could still positively be regulating your sleep/wake cycle. But there are so many factors that influence sleep that it could be due to one of 100 different things. Maybe your body just got accustomed to a certain sleeping pattern (assuming you were sleeping well when you were on it) and when you went off your body just stuck with it. Just a guess.

[xdude]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

I would definitely say it is plus for me...
I wake with the sun usually and so in the summer I am really stressed for sleep. getting up at 4 and going to bed at 9-10..

this morning I woke at 6 which is great for me..getting a solid 8 is important for recovery

the carpil has faded... i suspect it was due to my work assignment,
I was forced back into the office to collaborate ( ie find out about what my co workers children and pets were doing and spread germs )
i started working from home after breaking a leg, and got so much more done , I can not believe that the latest buzz in business is drag people back to an office where they don't even have desks for these people. As a result I was on a desk chair combo that was to be thrown out for various reasons ...
Since I was coming back to the office ,i choose one that was closer ( boy did that piss off boss that likes to bust balls) she only has one person to micro manage in person

anyhow I finally have a proper desk and the carpil is fading, may try the mk677 again

[Mike Arnold]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

I would definitely say it is plus for me...
I wake with the sun usually and so in the summer I am really stressed for sleep. getting up at 4 and going to bed at 9-10..

this morning I woke at 6 which is great for me..getting a solid 8 is important for recovery

the carpil has faded... i suspect it was due to my work assignment,
I was forced back into the office to collaborate ( ie find out about what my co workers children and pets were doing and spread germs )
i started working from home after breaking a leg, and got so much more done , I can not believe that the latest buzz in business is drag people back to an office where they don't even have desks for these people. As a result I was on a desk chair combo that was to be thrown out for various reasons ...
Since I was coming back to the office ,i choose one that was closer ( boy did that piss off boss that likes to bust balls) she only has one person to micro manage in person

anyhow I finally have a proper desk and the carpil is fading, may try the mk677 again

I used to work in a similar environment. I am sure it was a completely different job, but I had a boss micromanaging me. I hated it. Fortunately it's been many years since I had to do that. I feel for ya'.

[MuscleAddiction]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

Update... nothing too much to report except for the same great sleep, pumps during workout, and my appetite has not let me down, except for how much I am eating lol. Been a tad bit stressed this week and a bit emotional due to my daughter getting married this weekend, but other than that all is good. Took the day OFF from training today, will train tomorrow and Friday morning before we leave for wedding weekend. Went and was fitted for a new shirt for my suit for the wedding, that was comical. The lady measured my neck at 20"+, but was swimming in that size shirt, so seeing I was a bodybuilder and I kept commenting to my wife "if they can fit Dwayne Johnson in a suit like in Ballers, then they can fit me", so I got a 19 3/4" neck slim fit shirt so it would accent my V-taper and extensions for the collar...and a new tie...$200 later. The price we pay for being muscular and BIG, not a bad thing at all. I will at least look better walking my daughter down the aisle than her fiancé...he doesn't lift weights at all, just his ass off the couch to go to the fridge. He needs to do something otherwise he will be a 300lb bald headed impotent man in 5 years when my daughter will be in her prime.

[squatpresspull]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

So this great sounding log is from the link in the first post?

Never used GH before and my muscles in my nub are semi-growing, I wonder if it's help those muscles and the trap on my nub side. Might need to save up and buy before the price goes up.

[knights]

Re: MA (Mike Arnold) Labs Somatozine Log by MuscleAddiction

Thanks for the update MA, congrats on the daughter getting married!