Modified 5x5

[layddually]

Anyone tried 5x5 except made it 5x12 or something similar for more size than strength.

[zedhed]

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The thing is bro you need to remember that the typical 5x5 is more or less for the major movers (muscle groups) so if you are gonna up the reps like that then you will seriously need to reduce the weight.
Or you might consider doing the 3x5 for your big lifts and adding in iso stuff on say Tue, Thur and Sat. I say 3x5 so that you can recover adequatly from those big lifts.
This way I belive that you are getting excellent stimulation to your major muscle groups as well as getting in that direct work for size over strength.
Of course I could be full of it too...LOL.

[layddually]

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Here was my thought start at 5x12 as you up the weights your reps will obviously lower once you get to a weight you can only do 5x5 with stay at that weight and slowly try to up your reps back to 5x12 then start upping weights again. Just a thought idk that's why I'm asking lol.

[bigcivic]

Re: Modified 5x5

Here was my thought start at 5x12 as you up the weights your reps will obviously lower once you get to a weight you can only do 5x5 with stay at that weight and slowly try to up your reps back to 5x12 then start upping weights again. Just a thought idk that's why I'm asking lol.

Interesting sounds legit tho

[zedhed]

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LOL bro thats pretty much how I start out the 5x5. The beginning weights are so light that I do roughly 5x12-15. Then I up the weights every week till I hit 5x5 and progress as normal from there.

[layddually]

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Just did it today wasn't bad I kinda liked it but I added a couple things lol

[zedhed]

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Bro its all about what works for you and what your plans are.

[layddually]

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That's the shitty part is I haven't found what works for me yet.

[AgentYes]

That's the shitty part is I haven't found what works for me yet.

How long have you been training? How many programs have you tried? How long did you stick with each one? For the first eighteen months of training ANY program will work as long as you focus on progression from workout to workout. That means each workout will be an improvement in the workout prior whether its one more rep or five more pounds on the bar. The strange rep system you describe does seem to embrace the principal of progression so I assume you have been using it.

[layddually]

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How long have you been training? How many programs have you tried? How long did you stick with each one? For the first eighteen months of training ANY program will work as long as you focus on progression from workout to workout. That means each workout will be an improvement in the workout prior whether its one more rep or five more pounds on the bar. The strange rep system you describe does seem to embrace the principal of progression so I assume you have been using it.

Training off and on last 24 yrs lol I started trying to train when I was about 10. But got back into it seriously about 4 yrs ago. I stick with a program for about 2 months if I don't feel I'm getting any results I will either modify or completely change it. I was using a trainer for the last month and half but because of this god awful exhaustion I have had I cant wake up early enough to keep going to that gym.

[AgentYes]

Training off and on last 24 yrs lol I started trying to train when I was about 10. But got back into it seriously about 4 yrs ago. I stick with a program for about 2 months if I don't feel I'm getting any results I will either modify or completely change it. I was using a trainer for the last month and half but because of this god awful exhaustion I have had I cant wake up early enough to keep going to that gym.

What results is or that you don't feel you are getting? I'm not trying to be difficult I'm just trying to understand what's going on here. If you have done twelve programs during the last two years quitting each one because you weren't getting your desired results there's SOMETHING going on.

[layddually]

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What results is or that you don't feel you are getting? I'm not trying to be difficult I'm just trying to understand what's going on here. If you have done twelve programs during the last two years quitting each one because you weren't getting your desired results there's SOMETHING going on.

About 6 over the last 2 years I had one that worked for almost a year but then nothing and couldn't get any where even with several changes.

[SisterSteel]

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Training off and on last 24 yrs lol I started trying to train when I was about 10. But got back into it seriously about 4 yrs ago. I stick with a program for about 2 months if I don't feel I'm getting any results I will either modify or completely change it. I was using a trainer for the last month and half but because of this god awful exhaustion I have had I cant wake up early enough to keep going to that gym.

2 months isn't enough time to see if something is working. I tell everyone when they try a program they should give it at least 5-6months. It doesn't matter if it's DC, FST-7, 5/3/1, WSBB, 5x5, Sheiko, etc.

You have to give your body enough time to reap the benefits and some programs require a long period of time to be effective.

[layddually]

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One reason I changed up so many times is my goals changed so many times. I couldn't make up my mind what I wanted. But I have I hard time with certain exercises too. On top of my shoulder seperation. I also have a hard time getting certain muscles to kick in. If I flex my chest it looks weird as hell because there isn't much muscle on the bottom 1/4. I also have a section on my rear shoulder had a massage therapist tell me there should be muscle there but all she felt is bone.

[AgentYes]

One reason I changed up so many times is my goals changed so many times. I couldn't make up my mind what I wanted. But I have I hard time with certain exercises too. On top of my shoulder seperation. I also have a hard time getting certain muscles to kick in. If I flex my chest it looks weird as hell because there isn't much muscle on the bottom 1/4. I also have a section on my rear shoulder had a massage therapist tell me there should be muscle there but all she felt is bone.

It sounds like there are a few things going on that are messing you up. Do you know what your goals are NOW? I have. Friend like you she goes back and forth between wanting to be skinny and wanting to be muscular. The end result is she is never either one of those things and always just looks regular. You really will do best when you know what you want to achieve short term and long term. I find it also helps to frame those goals two kits ways. One that you see as realistic and achievable and one that would be ultimate Dream scenario. If you can so that I think you will vet some solid advice in specific programs.

As far ad your Injuries it sounds like they can all be worked around and that is what I would do. If there is a lift that isn't reasonable safe or effective for you to include switch it out for one that hits the same muscle but can be performed. Make sense?