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    Your Routine-diet or juice ?I hear guys all the time that say they are working hard in the gym -taking 400-1000 mgs test per week and not growing ?I always ask them how much they are eating ? Some say plenty-but I doubt it.Some say they are lifting big-but numerous reps and sets.
    To me I would say that diet is about 70 % of the answer.If a guy is using say a gram of test per week and really hitting BIG weight-he is going to grow-PERIOD.
    Quality sleep is another factor-but I have seen guys grow huge on lil sleep as long as diet was stellar.Let's hear it-comments please.I tossed this in this section-we can move it if needed-Thanks-OD

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    Re: Most Important to get BIG ??

    For me, it's all gotta be on point. If I'm lifting big, eating big (clean or not) and sleeping good... I make great strength and size gains. When I add in gear, I blow the fuck up!

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    • #3
      Eat, eat and then eat some more! I also log all my workouts on a stupid little app on my iPod so i'm not cheating myself on weight. Flexing my muscle after a lift and a good pump set helps me as well.

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      • #4
        For me its always been diet. I train hard and heavy (for me). I lift for strength and size. When diets in check (meal every 2.5 hrs) I'm continually growing. If I miss a meal its hell to pay. I shrink up extremely fast. But same is true for when I'm eating bit, I grow fast.

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        • #5
          Re: Most Important to get BIG ??

          DIET!
          So many times I see guys say that 5x5 dosnt work...LMAO!!
          If you eat to support the program you gonna GROW!
          No ifs, ands or buts about it!
          "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian."
          Henry Ford

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          • #6
            Diet is the most important factor whether cutting or bulking IMHO. Took me years to realize it.
            Blah blah blah Latina's ass...blah blah blah!

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            • #7
              Re: Most Important to get BIG ??

              Originally posted by zedhed View Post
              DIET!
              So many times I see guys say that 5x5 dosnt work...LMAO!!
              If you eat to support the program you gonna GROW!
              No ifs, ands or buts about it!
              Originally posted by Ironguruera View Post
              Diet is the most important factor whether cutting or bulking IMHO. Took me years to realize it.
              BINGO-this is my opinion also.Plus I like the whether cutting OR bulking part.Why does it take so long to realize ?Hmm-OD

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              • #8
                Re: Most Important to get BIG ??

                FOOD.... that's the most important thing. Lifting is a close second and AAS is third and isn't nearly as close as the first and second.
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                • #9
                  Re: Most Important to get BIG ??

                  Originally posted by SisterSteel View Post
                  FOOD.... that's the most important thing. Lifting is a close second and AAS is third and isn't nearly as close as the first and second.
                  Where do you figure sleep in?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bruiser View Post
                    Where do you figure sleep in?
                    Sleep? What the hell is that? That's the biggest thing that hurts my growth! I live on about 3 hours a day. I need to fix that but I can't seem to figure it out.

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                    • #11
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                      Yeah you get all these skinny guys that thing their built and they are afraid to eat cuz they might actually gain some muscle. Cracks me up.
                      Skinny is not attractive male or female and skinny fat is the worst!
                      "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian."
                      Henry Ford

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                      • #12
                        Diet for sure.. But you left one out...
                        So in order of importance: Knowledge, Diet, Training, Sleep, Exogenous Hormones/Supps.

                        Here's a good analogy:

                        Having the fastest race car (Genetics) at the track won't get you to the checkered flag (Goals) if you don't have the proper fuel (Nutrition) to make it run properly and make sure you don't run it into the ground (Sleep.) All the nitrous and High Performance (Hormones/Supps) in the world won't help you either, if you don't have the proper pit crew (Knowledge) to pull it all together.
                        Stats as of 1/17/13: 45 y/o male - 5'7" 186 lbs - 15-16% BF (est)
                        AAS Experience: over 25 years (on and off) - Just about every AAS, Serms, DNP...all except peps - 3 yrs Homebrew experience
                        Current Cycle: Test, EQ, DHB, Tren, Proviron
                        Training Experience: 30 years (on and off), Personal Trainer, Military
                        Current Training Protocol: DC Training
                        General Info and Goals: Cancer Survivor (Stage 3 Prostate Cancer - Cancer Free since 8/11)
                        Want to get back to pre surgery weight & strength - ultimately low 200s at sub 10% bf

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bruiser View Post
                          Where do you figure sleep in?
                          That's a given in my honest opinion. Even non BB should be getting a good nights sleep.
                          Blah blah blah Latina's ass...blah blah blah!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Most Important to get BIG ??

                            I think knowledge is number one. If you know what your doing that goes a long way to getting you to where you want to be. Then we have the big three Diet, rest and your work out. A lot of people forget that you dont grow when your in the gym you grow when your away from it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Most Important to get BIG ??

                              Originally posted by artman115 View Post
                              Diet for sure.. But you left one out...
                              So in order of importance: Knowledge, Diet, Training, Sleep, Exogenous Hormones/Supps.

                              Here's a good analogy:

                              Having the fastest race car (Genetics) at the track won't get you to the checkered flag (Goals) if you don't have the proper fuel (Nutrition) to make it run properly and make sure you don't run it into the ground (Sleep.) All the nitrous and High Performance (Hormones/Supps) in the world won't help you either, if you don't have the proper pit crew (Knowledge) to pull it all together.
                              Knowledge-I like it-but like Crayon said-maybe #1 -OD

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