time for a new one ...

[xdude]

Re: time for a new one ...

tried the 4runner , that had a good feel to it , the cab was a little cramp, but more of a "Cherokee" feel .
funny the salesman did not really know it, I mean he liked it, was able to quote all the features ( but they were all the same on all toyota's)
but ask about the 4 wheel drive and the guy was clue less.. he was honest and saying we can look it up when we get back rather than just make something up. the 4 runner was about the same cost as the highlander, but more of a truck feel.

I also took out and explorer ,and apparently the saleman made his quota for the month, because he just really didn't seem to care.
he asked how much i wanted to spend as opposed to features .( I hate that )
brought a grey one out , something boring. I clear said I wanted something that didn't look like a mini van .He actually said you can look it up on the web and see the different packages. gave me a card and said bye...

they had no 16's just 17's because the dealer was out ( but there are nice clearances on the 16's) go 15 miles in any direction and they have plenty in stock .
Only thing I can think of he is knew I would be looking into 16 else where.

when I bought my last Jeep there was a website, I think you paid $10 and got the actual cost to dealer, incentives , area incentives etc.
I can not find it .. anyone recognize it . I thought it was Edmunds but they just kept pushing me to truecar

[Ironguruera]

Re: time for a new one ...

Those websites are a scam. The dealer doesn't give a fuck what some website says they have into it. Nor do they have to honor that price. Simply gives u and idea of markup and what a "good deal" truly would be but getting the dealers to play ball is all up to you!

2 biggest and most important sales guy car lines are.
"What do u want to spend payment wise?"

"Up to how much monthly"----this is where they make a ton of money with just one line. They will purposely go to the top of your price range vs giving u a deal. U have to know msrp and use financing calculators before u go so u have an idea what a good vs bad deal is based of monthly payments.

Dealers never wanna negotiate the total price of the car. They wanna talk monthly bill. If they can eek $20-$100 a month out of every sale....that's how they make their money.

However there isn't huge markup in new cars anymore. It's about dealer incentives and what time of year u buy that can get a better deal ESP on last years models etc.

Dealers make money fucking ppl on the trade in values and used car sales. Most new cars are $1-3k profit margin at best. Most salesmen only make per unit spiffs of a $150-$350 per car they sell then they get bonuses for say 10 cars sold they get a nut. 15 cars out another bonus etc. by hitting these bonuses they get paid but ask any salesman.....they would rather sell a used car and day of the week. They fucked the person trading it in for $3k then they sell it for $7k.....they call that a 4 pounder aka $4k deal.

[xdude]

Re: time for a new one ...

"Up to how much monthly"---.

I got that once , and I just laughed at the guy.. he came back with 3 monthly payments, all some how ending in nice round dollars of 9
like 199, 239, 279 or something like that and then the months of the loan .
I said " so are you going to give me an interest rate and I have to back fill the price ?"
also , carefull on the payment amount, I know someone that brought the business calculator
and basically proved that what they were saying is not what they were charging ...

Of course I also had a strange incident where the sale man had to call me to get approval to charge me less interest.
( he miss quoted the factory promotional rate ). BTW factory financing is the only time you should believe an interest rate .

[xdude]

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oh boy...
so yesterday a co worker said we had access to truecar through a benifit site .
I said oh, and followed the link , it was an internal site , so I fool around during downtime at work
I get through searching a few prices and and options on JGC and the listed the latest incentive etc.
and it said click here for "truecar price"

well boom that triggers several emails to 3 local Jeep dealers saying I was interested in this model Jeep.
and apparently they did not get the details of what I was looking at ( or played dumb)
because they just sent me anything they had on their lot .

Today I was in a web based class today and was on the phone continuously for the 8 hours .
all day there was beeps indicating some salesman trying to call.

[Ironguruera]

Re: time for a new one ...

oh boy...
so yesterday a co worker said we had access to truecar through a benifit site .
I said oh, and followed the link , it was an internal site , so I fool around during downtime at work
I get through searching a few prices and and options on JGC and the listed the latest incentive etc.
and it said click here for "truecar price"

well boom that triggers several emails to 3 local Jeep dealers saying I was interested in this model Jeep.
and apparently they did not get the details of what I was looking at ( or played dumb)
because they just sent me anything they had on their lot .

Today I was in a web based class today and was on the phone continuously for the 8 hours .
all day there was beeps indicating some salesman trying to call.

Lol!!

[xdude]

Re: time for a new one ...

well the final decision , after a bunch of test drives, I finally went to pricing on the final 3 , Toyota offered me the MSRP ( that is right, no negotiation, take it or leave it ....so I left it ) Kia offered a little off, and Jeep offer a nice savings that surprised me. So 2017 75th anniversary edition limited


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[Slayer]

Re: time for a new one ...

Looks nice X! Does it have a Hemi?

[xdude]

Re: time for a new one ...

Looks nice X! Does it have a Hemi?

No , I feel you can drive faster if you can drive by gas stations
those hemi's get around 12 MPH...

[Ironguruera]

Re: time for a new one ...

No , I feel you can drive faster if you can drive by gas stations
those hemi's get around 12 MPH...

Might be a cunt hair more then that but yeah pass everything but the gas station! If u have money to burn sure but these days 4 and 6 Cylinder motors make plenty of power and get good economy!

Looks nice! Enjoy!

[xdude]

Re: time for a new one ...

besides if you are going all out... get the SRT version... 0-60 in under 3 seconds

Model: 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee
MSRP: From $66,895
Horsepower: 475 hp
MPG: 13 city / 19 highway
Engine: 6.4 L V8
Curb weight: 5,104 lbs
Towing capacity: 7,200 lbs
Torque: 470 lb-ft

http://www.jeep.com/grand-cherokee-srt.html

or you can get what I got and a Laredo for the wife and still have a enough for a living room set

[Ironguruera]

Re: time for a new one ...

U made a huge typo. 0-60 in under 3?? No way in hell with that fat 5100 curb weight and only 475 hp. I had a 425 hp 2005 GTO that was 3700 lbs. still slow lol.

Pics of living room
Set? Wife and I want a new couch but we are torn because we have a 1,3,5 yr old. It will be a piece of shit in 2 yrs 😂😂 probably going to get a nicer one but not go crazy. Rather get the wife new titties like she wants if we are going to go crazy 😂😂

[Willis]

Re: time for a new one ...

They will release the HellCat version soon. Did you get it with the Desiel motor? That would be sweet! Keep in mind toyota doesn't really budge, but they do hold there value and super reliable.

[xdude]

Re: time for a new one ...

U made a huge typo. 0-60 in under 3?? No way in hell with that fat 5100 curb weight and only 475 hp. I had a 425 hp 2005 GTO that was 3700 lbs. still slow lol.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/jeep-confirms-hellcat-powered-grand-cherokee-to-dealers-reveals-0-60-time/

so it is a crap 4.6 seconds for the srt the hell cat at 707 hp is 3.5 seconds

my question is how is it in the snow ...LOL

it is funny , jeep makes several Cherokees that you would never take 4 wheeling .or camping for that matter.
the sumit , srt, hellfire , and the trail hawk srt

I remember reading a review of the sumit ..."it is like 4 wheeling in a barca-lounger, it can do it...but who would do it"
you are going to get mud on that nice leather?

[Willis]

Re: time for a new one ...

http://blog.caranddriver.com/jeep-co...als-0-60-time/

so it is a crap 4.6 seconds for the srt the hell cat at 707 hp is 3.5 seconds

my question is how is it in the snow ...LOL

it is funny , jeep makes several Cherokees that you would never take 4 wheeling .or camping for that matter.
the sumit , srt, hellfire , and the trail hawk srt

I remember reading a review of the sumit ..."it is like 4 wheeling in a barca-lounger, it can do it...but who would do it"
you are going to get mud on that nice leather?

Why wouldn't you take it offloading. You'll just be more comfy. hahaha. I take my 16 G63 off roading. hahaha!

[Slayer]

Re: time for a new one ...

Isnt there a gas guzzler tax on that SRT and Hellcat?