Bigger shoulders

[Ironguruera]

Most tendonitis is caused by an imbalance between your flexors and extensors. If you're having pain in the inside of the elbow that's because your flexors are being worked far more than your extensors. You need to stretch them and work those extensors. This is VERY common among powerlifters because we pull the bar into our back when we squat.

Interesting sister!! I have been slacking on my forearm training lately. Other then what they get from hammer curls I haven't been doing any direct forearm work. They don't seem to grow regardless of what I've tried. Giant sets, supersets, high rep u name it. I get a great pump but that's all that ever happens. They get mildly more cut and vascular.

[SisterSteel]

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Interesting sister!! I have been slacking on my forearm training lately. Other then what they get from hammer curls I haven't been doing any direct forearm work. They don't seem to grow regardless of what I've tried. Giant sets, supersets, high rep u name it. I get a great pump but that's all that ever happens. They get mildly more cut and vascular.

Don't forget to stretch your wrists. Grab your wrist with your fingers pointing down and stretch. You can graduate to using a wall. For the wall, be sure to place your hand up by your head (height wise). That will cause a greater stretch.

[red crayon]

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I have watched a lot of people lift weights and most of them have an imbalance going on, its sad because that causes the pain. Even if the forearms dont seem to grow work them this will help keep the pain away. Have you ever worked your rotator cuff muscles?

Other things that sometimes cause it are doing barbell curls above your shoulders, and letting your arms fully extend as far as they can during a lift. Also no control on the negative part of a lift. Have you ever done any higher rep work? Higher rep work will help your tendons get stronger. Remember the tendons are at the joint. Most people complain of pain at the joint dont they?

[AgentYes]

I have watched a lot of people lift weights and most of them have an imbalance going on, its sad because that causes the pain. Even if the forearms dont seem to grow work them this will help keep the pain away. Have you ever worked your rotator cuff muscles?

Other things that sometimes cause it are doing barbell curls above your shoulders, and letting your arms fully extend as far as they can during a lift. Also no control on the negative part of a lift. Have you ever done any higher rep work? Higher rep work will help your tendons get stronger. Remember the tendons are at the joint. Most people complain of pain at the joint dont they?

I have done it all as far as rep work and training styles. The tendinitis actually started when I did DC. I cannot do high volume (high rep) direct arm work anymore and also cannot do unilateral. I used to do direct forearm work (reverse curls pinwheel curls ) I can't now because of the tendon pain. Ironic lol.

Dave Rates shoulder rehab is a bunch of rotator cuff work and honestly I consider that problem 90% resolved now thanks to the rehab rotator work I have done. It definitely works! The close band thing is stretching I will try to find a video it is HEINOUS and even weirder Nos that I do it without a partner. I look like such a spaz lol.

SS has some awesome suggestions I will start working on. Oh when I do any curled I don't let my elbow go below forearm parallel to the floor. I can't!

[AgentYes]

^^^
*Dave Tate's

[red crayon]

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I was just makeing some suggestions based on my observations. I dont know everything and invite anyone who knows a better way to point me in that direction. I have done all the lifting that I have done the same as any other natural lifter would. I would take my vitamins and supplements and be very careful while lifting.

I came here to learn and to try a different way. So any correction or help will be greatly appreciated! So far I have been very lucky and I havent had any major injuries. I have squated over 600 for reps and did dead lifts for reps over 600 as well, My bench sucks so I wont go there. I would bet that my form really sucked too. Those numbers are good but not good enough. Another bad thing is that I got side tracked because I was trying to put on some size during that time and might have gotten an inch from all of that. These days I dont care if any of my lifts go over 500 pounds but I want to look like I can easily lift more than that. Sorry I guess I got side tracked again.

[AgentYes]

I was just makeing some suggestions based on my observations. I dont know everything and invite anyone who knows a better way to point me in that direction. I have done all the lifting that I have done the same as any other natural lifter would. I would take my vitamins and supplements and be very careful while lifting.

I came here to learn and to try a different way. So any correction or help will be greatly appreciated! So far I have been very lucky and I havent had any major injuries. I have squated over 600 for reps and did dead lifts for reps over 600 as well, My bench sucks so I wont go there. I would bet that my form really sucked too. Those numbers are good but not good enough. Another bad thing is that I got side tracked because I was trying to put on some size during that time and might have gotten an inch from all of that. These days I dont care if any of my lifts go over 500 pounds but I want to look like I can easily lift more than that. Sorry I guess I got side tracked again.

Oh my gosh I totally failed to convey my tone- text is so difficult with that sometimes. Obviously your rotator cuff suggestion was right on because it has worked for me! I totally appreciate your post. Smileys. I need to use more Smileys!


And now I will always have you to blame when I get made fun of for oversmileying

[red crayon]

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Back in 2006 I had an accident at work. I got hit in the head and wound up with 2 skull fractures. (This does relate to this thread) I went into a coma and had to have a craniotomy. Part of my brain doesnt work anymore. Its the part that gets mad so theres no worries. My wife says that Im a lot more polite now too. Its all good Im just glad to be here!

Yes Maam Thank you

[zedhed]

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^^^And so are we bro!^^^ Glad to have you here.

[AlphaMuscle]

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To get the best shoulders you possible can, it is important to hit all three heads on the deltoids
This is my current shoulder workout:

I begin my workout warming up on the cables with very light weights performing side front and rear exercises 1- set 20 reps

The main workouts are performed at 3-4 sets at 8-10 reps on a pyramid system

Seated barbell press (behind the head) or dumbell press (try to alternate every month)

Side raises db to hit the side delts (lateral deltoid) - do this seated for isolation and improved technique

Side raises machine - side delts (lateral deltoid)

Rear deltoids exercise DB

Rear deltoid exercice on pec deck

Front raises DB for the anterior (front) deltoid.

I then finish up on shrugs

[AgentYes]

I have horrible tendonitis in my left elbow most arm lifting really hurts it and I am even limited on how heavy of a dumbbell I can hoist with my left arm. It does OK on the lateral machine for side dealt is fine for overhead press and face pulls but I am stumped on what I can do for the front delt. Any ideas?

[red crayon]

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I dont know how bad it hurts or how limited your range of motion is but I will try and help. I have used the side raise machine (lateral machine) for my front delts by sitting sideways in the seat and doing one arm at a time. If you need to you can use the non-working arm to assist the one that is working. (Kinda like forced reps). You might also keep the weight light and do drop sets with weight plates or dumbbells. There are more things you can do but that should get you started. I hope this helps.

[bigmike88]

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interesting, will try!

[red crayon]

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If nothing else helps a muscle pain and you just cant seem to work around it you might have to take some time off. When most people take time off they still try and do some cardio, if they can, but no weight lifting. I know that sucks. I had to one time, I pulled a groin muscle and it just hurt almost every time I moved. After a couple of weeks off it got better. Good Luck.

[Ironguruera]

I have horrible tendonitis in my left elbow most arm lifting really hurts it and I am even limited on how heavy of a dumbbell I can hoist with my left arm. It does OK on the lateral machine for side dealt is fine for overhead press and face pulls but I am stumped on what I can do for the front delt. Any ideas?

Agent yes. Have u looked into deep tissue massage?

My wife works this huge guy. He worked on my tendonitis and it offered a ton of relief. He said he could feel how it was all knotted up right away!
If its really bad u will prob wanna do a few sessions like 1 a week or so. However I got a ton of relief off just that 1st visit.

Check it out if u haven't already....I think if u can find competent skilled hands u will get some needed relief.

Mine was really limiting my tricep training.